Mcshammer_dj (17th December 2009)
---- Removed by Phil Neal on wise counsel from Greed.
Last edited by PhilNeal; 17th December 2009 at 12:51 PM.
Mcshammer_dj (17th December 2009)
careful Phil... I foresee this thread becoming a battleground soon!
I know - I should have resisted. Sometimes it is very hard to stay silient!
And I was responding to a query about Schoolcomms because we use it. I could not endorse the other products because we do not use them. Though we did visit a number of schools running different products before we made a decision to opt for Schoolcomms. That included the one that the LA were recommending and which I resisted adopting, because I knew that Schoolcomms was better than this particular product!
A number of schools have since visited us to see how Schoolcomms is used here and also visited other schools to look at other products. As far as I can remember, all those that have been to see Schoolcomms in action here have actually purchased it.
We are the same here Mike, we have had several schools look at SC, as well as javing sales people from the other companies and still have opted for SC.
Eee bah gum lad! I gonna miss thee wen tha's gon!
I'll be on my own again!
.......... that never shut me up before!
I'll still be on here, I'm still in 'education' even if it ain't educating Children.
Not sure why Mr Neal felt the need to post and then retract? I haven't seen any comment on this thread suggesting it was difficult to integrate with SIMS (which was the gist of his 'removed' comment?) .... very odd.
With regard to balance .... I like to see it and will wherever I see blatant examples (it's easy to prove this point by looking back at certain members' previous posts!) of individual promotion of one product will do my best to help others see a range of information so that they can make a balanced decision.
It should be normal that people look at various products/services, choosing the one that works best for them. This doesn't make any product better than any other, just better for them.
Unfortunately the education sector often doesn't work in this way, with huge commercial operators exerting massive leverage in obvious and not so obvious ways, such as part (or whole) funding of 'outsourced' IT departments for Local Authorities, who then tell all their schools to use particular products only (or they won't support them).
I'll probably get banned for this comment, but it is a disgrace and needs to be stopped.
Last edited by marshharrier; 17th December 2009 at 03:05 PM.
He may also have been following the lead of others, who in my opinion, are sailing very close to the wind in terms of advertising their products!
The last time that I intimated that then, I got my wrist slapped, so maybe I will again! Seems that it is happening less now though, so maybe somebody did take the point.
Glad to see that Phil is not doing this, although he must be very tempted indeed when he reads some of the Posts!
Now that's hysterically funny ... to suggest that some of these massive companies are somehow claiming the moral high ground by 'resisting the urge' to promote their products unfairly after so many years of getting away with it totally unchallenged ... that's the best joke of the year
Worryingly they seem to have gotten away with convincing some people already.
It would be 'just so' and 'on form' if they now started to use their massive influence to complain about it.
Tiny, Small, Medium, Large or Massive ............. If you have a MIS that does everything (well nearly - I always want summat new!) then you are going to support it........ arn't you?
That doesn't mean that you are knocking others!
As long as you don't complain when you only have one choice in the market ... and the price keeps going up!
At that point there will be nothing you can do about it.
It's called competition and it's healthy ... it's the only thing that ensures that a genuine 'marketplace' remains!
TruancyCall seems pretty good - I've seen SchoolComms in action (at Handsworth...) and that also seemed very effective. The reason we picked TC was the facility for phone calls as well as texts.
If anyone else uses Exchange for internal email, I was going to make a report that adds emails based on name lookup rather than SMTP email - would anyone else have a use for this?
In the spirit of 'might get banned or slapped wrists' posts, might I just make the point that no one seems to 'comment' on the effectiveness or lack of for other products here... If one is happy with the MIS they have whoever makes it, then there is no worries!
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