+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 18
MIS Systems Thread, SIMS - S: drive permissions in Technical; We are installing a new SIMS server today. As part of this the old S: drive is being renamed and ...
  1. #1

    Geoff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Fylde, Lancs, UK.
    Posts
    11,802
    Thank Post
    110
    Thanked 583 Times in 504 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    224

    SIMS - S: drive permissions

    We are installing a new SIMS server today. As part of this the old S: drive is being renamed and a new one setting up on the new server. Previously the S: drive got cluttered up as a general dumping ground for SMT/Admin/Office Staff files. I'd like for this not to happen again. So is it possible to give SIMS users read only permissions to the S: drive without breaking anything, so they don't clutter the drive up with tosh again!

  2. #2
    soveryapt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Lancashire
    Posts
    2,401
    Thank Post
    648
    Thanked 277 Times in 244 Posts
    Rep Power
    78
    Surely for SIMS to function, they will need write access of some sort to write back to the database? It might be possible to lock down the access they can have by only allowing certain folders / files read/write access, but I've never really experimented as I don't have the same problem here (I have a curriculum server for the staff to use as a dumping ground! lol)


  3. #3

    Geoff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Fylde, Lancs, UK.
    Posts
    11,802
    Thank Post
    110
    Thanked 583 Times in 504 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    224
    The database connection uses TCP/IP and/or a pipe. It's got nothing to do with the file share beyond the client looking there for updates (in S:\SIMS\SIMSINST) and looking for the SIMS.INI to tell it where the Database lives.

  4. #4

    maniac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Kent
    Posts
    3,037
    Thank Post
    209
    Thanked 425 Times in 306 Posts
    Rep Power
    144
    My SIMS S:\ is setup as the following;

    I have two groups - SIMS Users and SIMS admins. SIMS users only have read access to the Directory hosting the SIMS files, SIMS Admins have read/write access to the whole srive for dealing with CTF files, upgrades, Exam files etc.

    This works fine with regards to upgrades etc. There is no reason for normal SIMS users to have read/write access to the drive.

    Mike.

  5. Thanks to maniac from:

    vikpaw (24th October 2009)

  6. #5

    vikpaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Saudi Arabia
    Posts
    5,843
    Thank Post
    671
    Thanked 1,381 Times in 1,143 Posts
    Rep Power
    349
    i was always told at my last school to give full permission, even then, i made the setups folder read only for regular users.

    It's really useful to know that only read permissions are required, more useful to know that you've tested it that way.

    I'll be sure to experiment with that now. The only people that need access to edit files will be the timetabler.

  7. #6
    box_l's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Herefordshire
    Posts
    422
    Thank Post
    67
    Thanked 89 Times in 74 Posts
    Rep Power
    61
    why not give them the rights you currently have but use an adm or reg hack to hide the drive from them. it will still be mapped, just not visible.

    BoX

  8. #7

    Geoff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Fylde, Lancs, UK.
    Posts
    11,802
    Thank Post
    110
    Thanked 583 Times in 504 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    224
    Nice idea.

  9. #8

    FN-GM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    15,757
    Thank Post
    825
    Thanked 1,662 Times in 1,447 Posts
    Blog Entries
    11
    Rep Power
    441
    We also hide the drive. If you have Server 2008 you can do it in group policy now.

  10. #9
    ChrisH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    East Lancs
    Posts
    4,996
    Thank Post
    120
    Thanked 280 Times in 258 Posts
    Rep Power
    106
    For most people you can have read only. But as mentioned some directories will need to be writable by people who do your census etc eg star\ascout etc. Also ctf files need to go in a certain place as well.

  11. #10

    Geoff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Fylde, Lancs, UK.
    Posts
    11,802
    Thank Post
    110
    Thanked 583 Times in 504 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    224
    Does anyone have a list of what needs to be writeable?

  12. #11
    dwhyte85's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Berkshire
    Posts
    1,212
    Thank Post
    155
    Thanked 146 Times in 131 Posts
    Rep Power
    102
    We call ours the G drive, ours was setup by Capita long before I joined.

    Our G drive points to \\server\SIMS - I guess this would be similar to your S

    NTFS = Support Staff & Teaching Staff have everything up to Modify (no special and not full)
    Share = Everyone has Read & Change

    Obviously, it depends on your AD groups as they may well be different. I don't know exactly why it needs change/modify perms though, I thought this was all through SQL but none the less this is the default setup (or at least as I know it - this has been how it is).

    Presumably this must be recursive throughout the hierarchy within SIMS - I have no definite information on folders they write to and thus need perms :-(
    Last edited by dwhyte85; 24th October 2009 at 08:30 PM.

  13. Thanks to dwhyte85 from:

    robk (30th October 2009)

  14. #12
    ChrisH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    East Lancs
    Posts
    4,996
    Thank Post
    120
    Thanked 280 Times in 258 Posts
    Rep Power
    106
    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    Does anyone have a list of what needs to be writeable?
    Look for the likes of ctfin, ascout these will be the easy ones to spot.

  15. #13
    User3204's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Wirral
    Posts
    769
    Thank Post
    55
    Thanked 66 Times in 62 Posts
    Rep Power
    34
    We store our DocStorage on this drive, would this need to be writable too ?
    Or is this something that should only be accessible from the server ?

  16. #14

    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    South Cumbria
    Posts
    199
    Thank Post
    26
    Thanked 29 Times in 24 Posts
    Rep Power
    22
    Files such as CTIN, CTOUT, Census don't have to be on the S drive - I moved the Census folder on our system for data security reasons. You have the facility to set alternative paths from within SIMS.

  17. #15
    cookie_monster's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Derbyshire
    Posts
    4,196
    Thank Post
    392
    Thanked 278 Times in 239 Posts
    Rep Power
    74
    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    We also hide the drive. If you have Server 2008 you can do it in group policy now.

    So you're saying that you can do this without having to write a custom adm now?

SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Shared Photos Drive - Permissions
    By bsm78 in forum How do you do....it?
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 30th March 2009, 12:12 PM
  2. C:\ Drive Permissions etc
    By Silvor in forum Windows
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 7th February 2008, 06:15 PM
  3. C: drive NTFS permissions?
    By cookie_monster in forum Windows
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 6th February 2008, 08:24 AM
  4. User drive permissions and ownership
    By OutLawTorn in forum Scripts
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 30th November 2007, 12:15 AM
  5. Permissions on your simsroot/sims drive/s: drive
    By Oops_my_bad in forum MIS Systems
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 27th November 2007, 11:38 PM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •