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    Unhappy SIMS Attendance Take Register problem

    Hi,

    I new to SIMS and new to this forum so please excuse if I look and act like a newbie!

    I have been given the fun task of getting the Attendance module up and running in school, but there is an issue that I don't fully get. When I click on a lesson on my time-line it throws up a class list for that group and it looks like I can take a register. But when I hit the / key it ignores it - the register appears to be R/O. However, if I select 'Take Register' i get my am/pm sessions and I can take a register.

    The SIMS chappy reckons that the Attendance module will only allow am/pm registrations and that we need to buy Lesson Monitor if we want to register any class during the day.

    Is this true or is he trying to con the school out of £7k

    Dave

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    Yep - Lesson monitor costs - mind you it wasn't 7k for us!

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    How much did you knock them down to?

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    It is certainly a lot less than the figure quoted above!

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    We were told £5k for the module, £1k for installation and £2k/year for 'maintenance'. Why does it need maintaining - is it so crap?

    Still can't believe Attendance displays a register that you can't take - surely its just a permissions thing?

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    The annoying thing with Attendance is that it'll do Am reg groups & PM lessons for OMR sheets but won't work when your taking it within sims.

    You can however register by sets via Focus > Attendance > Edit marks and then choose academic groups rather than registration groups followed by finding the class you wish to register(will double check tomorrow) - its a very long winded way of doing it but it works.

    Also its not attendance showing the timeline/teaching groups via the timeline its NovaT that adds that functionality, without NovaT you'd just see AM and PM registration on the timeline.
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    [QUOTE=det;396191]We were told £5k for the module, £1k for installation and £2k/year for 'maintenance'. Why does it need maintaining - is it so crap?

    If you bought it I don't see why you couldn't install it and configure it yourself. Maintenance means a. upgrades. b ability to talk to support if there are problems amongst other things and is paid for all modules including the ones you already have.

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    The inital cost is probably just a one off and you can then use it for ever, so the real cost per annum is then just over £2k.
    It is so long since we bought into it I cannot remember if we had to make such a large payment for the initial purchase.
    Installing is quite easy!
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    Just install it yourself - I did & I'm no SIMS expert. It's just like installing a standard upgrade, only for us it didn't come down on SOLUS as we only get what is authorised by the LEA. Saves a grand.

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    5k and 2 k for us as well. The lack of it means we do OMR registration on Wednesday because it is a shorter day and their is no form periods so it is done P1 and P4. Right pain is the arse. We will get lesson monitor eventually.

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    I think we paid about 5K but no install fee. Go to say we've never looked back - it identifies so many little issues such as post registration truancy very quickly and easily. It's really helped us hammer attendance issues.

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    @det:

    Lesson monitor just works great, we take register morning and afternoon sessions and it works flawlessly.

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    about 5k, 2k on-going costs.

    no install - received a patch to activate, then applied with dbupgrade.
    but, you are supposedly obligated to do their training in order for them to release the patch and then support you. i just read the manual.

    it's awesome, i'm just trying to get my head around all the reports and links. it also makes using behaviour management module easy as loggin incidents good or bad is only 3-4 clicks from register screen. plus soon we'll link to marksheets and lesson plans on the fly too.

    don't ask, just haggle them a bit it and buy it. i think we bought mid-year so maintenance costs were pro-rata. You have to pay for maintenance immediately on purchase.

    the best thing is if a teacher forgets to do the register i can send them a message from the home page which makes SIMS squeal next time they log in!

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    Don't forget you can combine it with the homepage panels for live updates on the attendance of anything from an entire Year Group down to an individual troublesome pupil.

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    Ain't SIMS wonderful when set up correctly ...............!?!

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