The Police are not going to come in and start demanding fingerprints of your students. They have means to get their own fingerprints if they suspect someone of a crime, if they find fingerprints on something and suspect it is an individual in your school then they'll take the prints themselves to compare and not raid your school's canteen/library/SIMS office. Besides, their fingerprints are all over their iPod's and mobile phones anyway.
Our canteen uses fingerprint recognition and the kids find it to be a neat little novelty. A bit of hassle registering the prints though with small Year 7 hands not reading properly. When it comes to registration though, is it really worth it? You have to consider the extra cost and making the students come up orderly one-by-one to sign-in for what benefit? If a teacher can't tell if a student is who they really are then they can use Lesson Monitor's photo option to bring up their picture. And as you move down the register, the photo changes to the next student. The benefit of fignerprint recognition in schools is to encourage incresed use with the novelty of the system and help cut down on lost cards or money. Registration uses neither of these benefits.
Errrr.... In other words, just like the police system. How else would the cops match fingerprints? To be sure, the police keep an image of the fingerprint but that's only used for checking by humans after their system has sorted through their database and pulled out the most likely matches.but it should be noted that at no point is the child's finger print saved. The system measures unique points on the print to create a unique string for each child. Because of the way this is calculated, it cannot be reversed to find out a fingerprint. So the system only actually saves a string of numbers, not an image of the fingerprint itself.
Even though the PNC and your dinner card system store the information in an incompatible manner (and even that is debatable) the police could take a fingerprint they have taken from a crime scene (somehow connected to your pupils), wrap it onto a synthetic finger, put in *your* fingerprint reader, and watch it spit out the name of suspect#1.
When you were in 6th form your parents would of received a letter telling them about how the finger prints are stored.
Its not the same system as a national finger print database.
it works on a principal of numbers assigned to a picture (the finger print is a picture like your school photo)
over looked another members post.. sorry.....
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Ok, so those who say they're against it due to some made up idea that it infringes rights, what if the school uses facial recognition instead? This is storing biometric information again, and could be used in the same way as a photo of a person could...
The entire idea that fingerprinting is a infringement of rights is bizarre. What are the actual fears?
Just a comment on the hysterical parent brigade - we've had our first angry letter the other day claiming things about infringing human rights and civil liberties, but they fail to provide any explanation as to how this data is any different to the hundreds of other pieces of data being held by the school, LEA, DCSF, and government as a whole...
There is, it seems, no way of appeasing these fears - as those with them consistently fail to provide any evidence as to why it is bad.
i know it isn't the same database and i also asked the question of how the print was processed to which no one could give me a definitive answer. why should i let my prints be used in a system where the techs and admin havent the foggiest???
some sytems actually save an image of your print - this one did. so i opted out - as is my right. i also didn't have a school photo. again i opted out.
i also asked for all letters concerning me to be sent to me and not my parents and for them to correct my name from matt to matthew on all formal documentation, nither oh which they did (in breach of the DPA).
I'm personally against storing any form of biometric data, including (but not limited to) fingerprints. One major problem I have with biometric data being used for identification/authentication is the very fact that once you give it to an organisation you have no way of changing it should the data be leaked etc.
If you're using a password/pin code should there be a breach it is possible to change the password/pin. However with biometrics this is simply not possible - you can't change someones fingerprint. As biometrics become more wide spread I can already see a market springing up to convert reference point data to an acceptable gummy finger alternative to "fake" a biometric. Even without the reference data it is very easy to acquire a biometric like a fingerprint should someone want access to a system that your biometric grants you access to.
It is my belief that biometrics are over used and their full consequences haven't been fully considered by most organisations. There are very few instances that I believe a biometric should be used as a form of authentication/identification.
That is justification enough in my eyes.
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