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MIS Systems Thread, Anyone use the Bromcom system? in Technical; Originally Posted by tarquel Optimus - are you using the software version of winfolder ? We certainly are - upgraded ...
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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

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    Optimus - are you using the software version of winfolder ?
    We certainly are - upgraded to V2.03.000 this summer - but I notice they have an update already!

    PE are meant to use wireless on the fields - but don't bother. Every teacher has a desktop PC so it isn't hard for them to call up their registers etc. We also use the 'alert' feature - and it works really well in our school. As soon as the alert is raised, the on duty SMT gets a call over their Walkie-Talkie - and it is ‘action stations’ - almost like a scene from Thunderbirds...

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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

    Excellent - a few questions then if you dont mind?

    a) Did you use the physical folders previously? and do you prefer them over the software version or does the software version work well?

    b) Do you install the client software onto each client or do you use a network shared version? (The later may not work for me as the curriculum is on a seperate network to the admin network where the bromcom system is installed and setup - shares wont work there, although maybe i could make a shared install on the curriculum DC - what do ya think?)

    I also got told by our bromcom acc manager who came to see us around xmas time that a msi version was being looked at but I havent heard anymore on it - do you know of one at all? is it out? etc etc. i.e. i'd prefer this way alot better really

    SMT's "are go" lol A interesting concept lol

    Regards
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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

    [topic moved to MIS Systems board - tarquel]

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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

    @Thom
    My school have been using BromCom for 4-5 years now.

    The staff at my school hate it and the product costs a bomb in maintenance.

    We are looking to get rid and use SIMS or TALMOS for our registring, they are a lot more user friendly.

    We only use BromCom for registring though as we can do everything else in the new SIMS.net
    Why not use Lesson Monitor for the registering as well?

    If you're running sims this shouldn't be too hard to get up and running!

    Wes

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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

    We use Bromcom for registration and also e-behaviour as well and have found it to be very good. All staff now have laptops so we deployed the latest WinFolder application (v. 2.05 i think) and works very well. What makes the winfolder app very good is that its quick and has small footprint.

    I agree with others in that the wireless pads are bad and outdated. We have them still as we are in a process of migrating to using winfolder but those pads are rubbish and were terrible -staff used to hate it so much. The feedback on using winfolder is very positive and it gives staff so much info and its quick.

    Nath, for remote support from bromcom we just allowed NetOp traffic to 6502 UDP i think to the relevant bromcom server. With ISA server this is pretty easy to do. They shouldn't need VPN for this and if they are asking for VPN access then i would phone them and get info on exactly why they need this. They certainly don't need it at our place.

    They use NetOP remote control software to provdie remote support. Our server has been setup to recieve traffic on TCP/UDP 6502. Just publish the bromcom server using the above protocol (inbound). What we have done is got the source IP of where they will be initiating the connection and made the rule so that only they can access the server remotely.

    HTH,

    Ash.

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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

    My school have been using the bromcom WinFolder system for about 3-4 years now we also use SIMS.net for our admin side of it all but the bromcom system is just for the registration of pupils in the school, the system now runs on every laptop in the building and is installed on individual laptop as this is easier as we already have too many servers to put the Bromcom system on aswel, we have only ever had problems with the Bromcom winFolder system when the wireless network has been down which is very rare the last time it happend was about a year ago but was backup and running with in the hour and we plan to keep the Bromcom Win Folder system for many years to come

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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

    We used PARS for a bit. Its preety good, but we ended up down the Facility road

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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ric_
    @beeswax: You're welcome to come for a demo - I also have some leaflets and spherical dice to give away! :D
    Gosh, this post takes me a back a bit. Have you still got the spherical dice?

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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

    We used Bromcom for the past 4 years and have found it unrealible and very costly. We were really fed up and staff never bothed to use it towards the end as it just wouldn't work - the folders I mean; Bromcom support was poor.

    Over summer we got SIMS.net on very staff laptop, and now use the NEW Lesson Register and more recently the updated Alerts system on Sims.net. Our attendance clerk uses Lesson Monitor for the reports and teachers use Lesson Register v7 for taking registers and behaviour tracking, although we used SLUETH previously.

    We are really happy with SIMS, the updates have slowed down now as the program becomes stable and staff find it very good to use as they have a wealth of information about their classes and students. Most staff use the wireless network [esp PE]... which is fine most of the time... We are now making staff use Profiles and Assessment Manager 7!!!

    Overall support for SIMS is excellent and the cost are better than BROMCOM..

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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

    @Beeswax: I certainly do have the spherical dice

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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

    I've found the bromcom support team variable, but significantly improved over the last 18 months.

    Provided the timetable and bromcom administrator talk and understand what they are doing and the relationship between the core MIS and e-school everything works quite well.

    A number of times we have been able to discover what is going wrong in sims from the window the bromcom system provides.

    Our Attendance team really like the reports e-school provides compared to sims attendance and the teachers are all very comfortable using the fast efficient (though spartan) winfolder interface. In addition from time to time our sims system goes down as our LEA unpick the latest botched patch, e-school and winfolder allow for continues registration and access to pupil contact information.

    The icing on the cake is that our PE department are extremely keen to move to winfolderPE.

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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

    We use bromcom quite successfully, using WinFolder and WinFolderPK. We don't get many techinical problems with it, but i understand from the data admin people that it leaves a lot to be desired. Also, the customer service isn't great. We stuck with it because we had their 2g wnet wireless version and were familiar with it, but i think the SIMS system is definitly worth a look. especially if you're using a few other modules in SIMS.

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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

    We use it on laptops and find it extremely reliable and very easy to use. The staff generally like it. If teachers like it and use it, what more can be said

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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

    We recently got the Bromcom timetable software, its the best tt package weve used to date. The head is now considering Bromcoms Registration package as weve had enough with lm. Is the rest of their software at a similar level? Ive heard from a friend whos used it elsewhere their behaviour module is good

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    Re: Anyone use the Bromcom system?

    We are considering getting Bromcom at our place solely for eRegistration. At the moment we use Sims.net for everything else but no teaching staff have access to it.

    SMT have expressed a preference for using the registration module for Sims which would be cheaper. However I think it will create a lot more work in installing and troubleshooting Sims on 65+ teachers laptops and they will panic when the monthly update runs even though they have been told to expect it. I have also been told that accessing the Sims database puts more traffic on the network than the Bromcom method. This is relevant to us as it will mostly be carried out over the wireless network.

    The plan is to have all staff accessing bromcom via the web interface to cut down on troubleshooting, software installation and updating on the clients machines. Is anyone else using the bromcom web interface?

    Any thoughts on my idea or alternative solutions welcome.

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