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    The future of SIMS

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    I was talking to a reliable source from Capita today who was saying sims will in all in a web interface powered by silverlight

    I must say i like to sound of that, what do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    Hi,

    I was talking to a reliable source from Capita today who was saying sims will in all in a web interface powered by silverlight

    I must say i like to sound of that, what do you think?
    I can see that it should be pretty easy to port, it being .Net. They'd just have to change controls etc...

    It could be pretty good if they do it right!

    It'd make life easier for maintaining it too.

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    Boy, that idea scares me... it's bad enough as it is, without them trying to port it to a new platform as well. It'll be worse than the CC4 transition, mark my words!

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    Quote Originally Posted by powdarrmonkey View Post
    Boy, that idea scares me... it's bad enough as it is, without them trying to port it to a new platform as well. It'll be worse than the CC4 transition, mark my words!
    Think POSITIVE thoughts PowdarrMonkey


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    I don't think porting it to a web interface is such a bad idea overall - for starters, it will make things like direct access for parents potentially simpler to implement *if it's part of the standard package and not an expensive add-on*.

    One thing that does really worry me is the training cost though. Not just the financial and staffing implications of having to get everyone who's using a completely different version (it *will* be different, after all), but also the potential for mishaps with everyone on a site being inexperienced with a new package. How many schools have thought "we're bored of our current MIS solution - next time an upgrade cycle comes, let's install something completely different and try and make that work instead"? I'm guessing not many.

    What could be handy would be if they make customising and modifying the interface feasible - there are well-established mechanisms for typelibs and so-on that are largely self-documenting anyway, and I for one would like to see some flexibility in order to present a different interface and subset of data, reports, etc to staff with different roles.

    Or will it be some big partner program instead?...

    And what will the implications for hardware be? Will it ease up on the DBMS server load? Will it require a massively-powered web server with all the associated hardware, software licensing and support costs? Hmm.

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    Given the number of modules still to be ported to .net this would be a long, long way off.

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    It would mean you could change your desktops to Linux (or whatever), as Silverlight has an open source sibling, called moonlight.

    ..It'd better be a few years off, as I've only just started deploying Silverlight out to some machines.. and I've yet to see anything running it, or needing it.

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    As I understood it, this was just for the new Reporting Engine.

    Do you know more FN-GM?

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    This sounds really good. Will be such an easier way for the use of SIMS across the board really.

    But with the new SOLUS solution (if I remember, will check my NMF notes) for the deployment of SIMS I don't see this coming out in the near future.

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    The first release of the new Reporting Engine, which may be using Silverlight, is due for release in March of next year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by User3204 View Post
    It would mean you could change your desktops to Linux (or whatever), as Silverlight has an open source sibling, called moonlight.

    ..It'd better be a few years off, as I've only just started deploying Silverlight out to some machines.. and I've yet to see anything running it, or needing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sivadam View Post
    As I understood it, this was just for the new Reporting Engine.

    Do you know more FN-GM?
    I dont know the only thing i know is the whole package will be like this.

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    You can virtually guarantee Capita's version of Silverlight SIMS will be just obscure enough not to work under the open-source Moonlight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    Hi,

    I was talking to a reliable source from Capita today who was saying sims will in all in a web interface powered by silverlight

    I must say i like to sound of that, what do you think?
    Old Trafford?

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    I'm out of touch with Sims but I'd be amazed if they were not working on a web version. Silverlight might be the way to go or just simple .Net web pages

    The FE college I used to work at used Agresso QL and they released a web version a few years ago. The general opinion of the people who used it was that it was too slow compared to the fat Windows client it replaced (repainting a whole web page is always going to take longer than just filling in a few boxes on a screen which is already loaded in RAM). Silverlight (or Flash or even Java) ought to improve that experience.

    A big benefit of using any web based app is that it runs anywhere you've got a browser and deploying a new version is really easy.

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