MIS Systems Thread, Virtualise SIMS in Technical; Hi
Not sure if this has been covered or indeed done but can i virtualise sims in VMWare ESX and ...
3rd February 2009, 09:37 PM #1
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Not sure if this has been covered or indeed done but can i virtualise sims in VMWare ESX and secondly would captia support it in a virtual environment?
3rd February 2009, 09:40 PM #2
We currently have SIMS Running on a Virtual Machine Running on VMware Server.
I have never had any problems with it running on a virtual machine; in fact staff said they have seen an improvement in the speed of SIMS since we have virtualized it.
Our SMIS Team support Virtualisation, not sure about capita
3rd February 2009, 09:54 PM #3
Why wouldn't capita support it? for all intensive purposes, it is a physical machine... unless they specifically ask to see it.
As far as I can tell, we still get support from Capita with ours, but we're also a partner school too...
3rd February 2009, 10:35 PM #4
My last school had it running on ESX 3.5 in a production environment. Captia will support it as at the end of the day as far as Windows and Sims is concerned it doesn’t know its virtual.
3rd February 2009, 10:44 PM #5
I'm considering doing this to create some redundancy and make a failover instance available.
Is it hard to do / setup??
3rd February 2009, 10:47 PM #6
What VM setup do you have?
Originally Posted by vikpaw
If you have it in place all you need to do is get sims running on the server in the usual way. To do this you could use VMware converter.
3rd February 2009, 11:32 PM #7
Is this to protect from hardware failure or the virtual image's edition of windows crapping out?
Originally Posted by vikpaw
4th February 2009, 04:04 AM #8
@FN-GM - No current setup. Have just been playing with VMware fusion on MAC to run, Windows with SIMS, Vista and Win7.
I managed to crash it on day 1 and have even blue screened virtual XP with hardware like faults! M$ got some serious issues
@ZeroHour - BOTH! Also to be able to run updates in a test environment and troubleshoot before going live.
I'm just learning our setup over here. I only found out yesterday that you can run SOLUS from any PC. At my old place we were forced to only do things on the server and only using the custom tools from our custom support team.
Ric_ told me at BETT he's using ESX i believe... i may have to trade some Davidoffs for a how-to guide....
4th February 2009, 04:31 AM #9
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We vistualised SIMS at my last school too using ESX. I agree with other posts that it seemed to run better on a vitual than physical server. We were supported direct from Capita and it didn't affect our support.
There was nothing special needed when converting either. We stopped the SQL services converted and then started them on the virtual, no one knew we'd even done it.
4th February 2009, 05:30 AM #10
How does that conversion work?
Does it just make a copy of your system and inject it into the virtual server? Is it the whole server, OS + SIMS?
I want to test it out, but still leave the existing installation in place while i play around with it...
4th February 2009, 07:59 AM #11
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Basically when you run the converter software point it at the VM host machine tell it what size hard disk you want, how much memory and how many processors (these can be changed later if you wish) and then start the conversion.
On the VM host machine a new vm appears and the conversion starts. Once finished you can play until your hearts content.
It converts the whole server intact, so any software issues you had on the physical server will appear in the Virtual version. Obviously you need to be careful with names and IP addresses if you have the physical server running.
You can also snapshot your virtual server and revert back should any software update go wrong. This process takes seconds (ok maybe a few mins!) to do.
P.S. I think I am going to be at the user group meeting in Dubai so it will be good to meet you.
4th February 2009, 08:46 AM #12
I'm running SIMS on Citrix XenServer... it works well... very well. Our old SIMS box was rubbish so the new virtualised instance flies in comparison.
I didn't do a P2V conversion because I wanted a nice clean install (and my old box was still ruunning 2000 so an upgrade would have been needed anyway).
@vikpaw: How many HOWTO guides would you like?
4th February 2009, 09:47 AM #13
Hyper-V is awsome Vik and you get free clustering
I have it setup here and its awsome tbh. You can move live running images around easily.
4th February 2009, 09:50 AM #14
Is it awsome? (aka awesome)
Originally Posted by ZeroHour
4th February 2009, 09:56 AM #15
Its so good that is does not need the "e", you already know exactly how brillnt ( ) it is
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