MIS Systems Thread, Parent access to student data in Technical; Hello everyone Do any of your schools have set up for parental access to student data - attendnace, grades etc.. ...
14th December 2008, 01:59 PM #1
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14th December 2008, 04:53 PM #2
What MIS software do you run?
We use the SIMS webparts to give access to parents to view their son daughters data. Have a look here: SIMS Learning Gateway Demo - Capita Education Services
Secondary schools I think need to have this in place by September 2010 and Primary schools by September 2012.
14th December 2008, 09:12 PM #3
We've recently installed SIMS Learning Gateway, so far we've not gotten anyone using it yet.
It's not cheap, but then nothing from Capita ever seems to be...
There is fortunately, something within the requirements, that says "... regularly updated..." or words to that effect, it does not mean you have make todays registers available... regular can mean once a term... or even once a year, everyone is assuming daily.
If I had the chance to go again, I would have the bi-annual reports that go out to the students exported as PDF, and then give the parents access to this (as the registration data is stored on this).
As this is gonna be a lot cheaper/easier than any other solution.
15th December 2008, 09:28 AM #4
Would there be any problems with having an external Broadband Link and letting staff in through there?
15th December 2008, 09:40 AM #5
You will need to forward ports to the internal servers. You also would want to consider security, you don't want your sims server directly exposed to the internet, infact you dont want anything on the main network expossed.
15th December 2008, 09:44 AM #6
I agree the best way to do this is to have some kind of reporting system that exports electronically once a term.
Realtime data would be cool but its total overkill for Parents.
15th December 2008, 11:14 AM #7
The government's target for England is real time reporting - not three reports a year! It doesn't really matter what we think as we will be judged by this requirement.
One LA recently pointed out that as it took parents to court for the non-attendance of their children, it took the responsibility of letting parents know immediately that there was a problem.
15th December 2008, 01:20 PM #8
Originally Posted by Sylv3r
Does anyone have a reference for this requirement?
15th December 2008, 01:39 PM #9
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15th December 2008, 03:26 PM #10
Aren't learning platforms supposed to be making this possible? Ours integrates with the school management software, generates usernames for parents from this and then we have been told that parents can log in and get their own children's attendance data, etc. I know that the pupils themselves get their own attendance data up when they log in.
16th December 2008, 12:14 AM #11
16th December 2008, 07:25 AM #12
Learning Platforms (not to be confused with VLEs) are supposed to be extended to provide this feature via SIMS Webparts / some other way.
Originally Posted by Andie
We had a presentation on SLG yesterday and whilst expensive, it looks like it'll do the job.
16th December 2008, 11:33 AM #13
Can you explain please the difference then between a Learning Platform and a Virtual Learning Environment?
Originally Posted by kmount
16th December 2008, 12:19 PM #14
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A VLE is a tool for sharing course content and tests.
A learning platform is an extension to a MIS to share data about students.
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leco (16th December 2008)
16th December 2008, 12:35 PM #15
A Learning Platform is a container ... it holds access to MIS information, access to learning objects (sometimes directly using tools built into the platfor, eg SLK, but sometimes external objects or complete external VLEs eg Moodle) and access to areas for collaboration.
A VLE is a learning environment where structured, independant and/or personalised learning takes place. This may mirror the classroom situation but can be extended into may other areas. A VLE may be provsioned by an MIS or Learning Platform. VLEs range from Studywhiz, Moodle, FirstClass ... through to things such as SAM Learning, homework now, etc ... even Blogger could be considered a VLE if used in particular ways.
A learning object may range from a full SCORM object that allows for the completion of a unit of work, through to a pdf or movie that a learner has to review and then feedback on orally.
Lots of these things are labels and they get mixed around ... SLG does what it says on the tin but there are options to see how far you can stretch where it sits, how it is used and this is before you start to consider that before you start reporting to parents you need to think about *what* you want to report.
Do you have a regular reporting structure? Do the grades make sense and is it part of your MIS rather than a separate system? Behaviour? It is not just about recording who has been bad, but if you use your MIS to record behaviour it merely needs to be part of the whole school approach to behaviour. Why record it if you are not going to use it to make a difference (the ongoing arguement about recording incidents of bullying. It goes on so you should record it, but you need to use the information to make a difference!)
I'm presently looking at the options within the county learning platform for reporting and it is an eye opener ... There are a lot more options availble that I previously thought ... but as with everything else, time and money dictate what is reasonable!
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