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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanWood
    You need to be a local admin to run SIMS anyway
    Whats difficult about making it work for non-admins? And more to the point why on earth would i let *ANY* teacher have admin rights over their pc? You simply cant do it; if they decide to bypass your proxy and look at child porn how are you going to know and how are you going to stop them when you have given them full control of their pc?

    BTW i totally agree with your post.


    Whats the problem capita? I, a lowly it technician in a school getting payed peanuts, can manage to package up software into MSIs. Why cant a multi-million£££ company manage to do it?

    Why so many updates? Why one a month? How about you try and get things right the first time and save me having to go round 100+ PCs every month fixing last months "fix"*

    *But if you fix the auto-update or make MSIs you can do as many updates as you like.

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    j17sparky, thanks for the support

    Power Admin is the minimum that SIMS will run on, but sometimes that fails too even when you run the scripts to alter permissions on folders locally and only local Admin will work. To be fair to Capita though, it's my local borough who tell us to run as local admins, and they do it by default - not even bothering with Power Users.

    You may have a different setup/modules that allow you to run with different user rights.

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    Quote Originally Posted by j17sparky
    Why so many updates? Why one a month? How about you try and get things right the first time and save me having to go round 100+ PCs every month fixing last months "fix"*
    One a month? I dream of one a month. Did you get caught with the June upgrade fiasco?
    End of June was wasted with "both" of those.

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    Just to ensure maximum coverage, I feel duty bound to post this link and politely request every SIMS user reading this thread to vote for the change request for an MSI installer.

    I bet Gordon Brown wishes voting was this easy and fun!

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravening_Wolf
    Just to ensure maximum coverage, I feel duty bound to post this link and politely request every SIMS user reading this thread to vote for the change request for an MSI installer.

    I bet Gordon Brown wishes voting was this easy and fun!

    I will... once im registered in 24-48hours

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    The only machines we have an issue with are those with satellite Nova setups that also have the main SIMS.net on too ... which is just one machine (and I still think some of that is the user that has it ... but let's not get into that!)

    We had an issue with the "What's New" pop up on one machine due to Adobe Reader being updated the same day and not being run before hand (that horrible adobe agreement you get on first run is a pain unless you package it).

    Previous to that ... I think it was about 18 months ago ... and that was someone pressing cancel part way through and buggering things up.

    I can't really complain about the updates ... the local Capita team generally iron out any faults ... and we also play the same 'wait and see' tactics we do with MS updates (which are also monthly) ... we watch for a week and wait to see what issues arise and then react accordingly. We do similar with Apple updates too. All part of patch management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomscaper View Post
    This is the autoit script i created to install sims, i modified it from the batch file.

    The users cannot move the mouse or use the keyboard so they cannot cancel it and if you add it to you gpo as a start up script it will run and install if they pc screws up.



    This works fine for me, and i dont need to worry if a machine gets rebuilt.

    Tom
    This script looks great! but... how do I run it!?

    Just copy and paste into text editor then rename to script.bat and add to GP?

    Thanks for and pointers!

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    The link for change request for MSI installers... CR 0809-395377

    http://support.capitaes.co.uk/Change...a5%c3%9d%c3%92

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    This script looks great! but... how do I run it!?

    Just copy and paste into text editor then rename to script.bat and add to GP?

    Thanks for and pointers!
    You need to use the Autoit program here compile it to exe and you can then add it to cp on startup.

    It wont work as a batch file.

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    On a related note which anyone googling the error message "SIMS.ini Problem" to get to this page may need to know ... teachers or indeed anyone else who needs to use/autoupdate SIMS on a CC3 system using their packages will need to be a member of "??? Management Information Systems". Permissions have been built into the RM supplied packages to allow them to access certain files and folders.
    SIMS / FMS include a mechanism for the applications to update themselves. This is
    implemented by programs called SIMSLoad.exe and FMSLoad.exe respectively that
    run each time the user starts one of the following applications:
    SIMS .net
    SIMS Lesson Monitor
    SIMS Web Integrator
    SIMS FMS Module
    When they run, SIMSLoad.exe and FMSLoad.exe show a splash screen “Upgrading
    SIMS workstation”) while they check the versions of the setup programs on the
    server in S:\SIMS\Setups and S:\SIMS\Setups\FMS respectively against the versions
    recorded in the files SIMSLoad.ini and FMSLoad.ini on the workstation and run any
    updated setups that are detected.
    MIS users have permission to update the following areas on the workstation to allow
    this to work:
    The file C:\Windows\SIMS.ini
    The folder C:\Program Files\SIMS and all sub-folders
    The registry key HKLM\SOFTWARE\CLASSES and all sub-keys
    The RM packages include settings to grant write access to the relevant areas for
    users in the “Management Information System” group.

    Note: Also see the section “Software Restrictions policy modification for
    SIMSLoad/FMSLoad”.
    There is no automatic upgrade process for SIMS Infrastructure. This must be
    delivered to workstation via the installation of a package. Capita does not support uninstallation
    of the infrastructure; removing the infrastructure package will execute
    another install.

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    An updated link to the "Command Line Use of SIMS Installers.pdf"

    http://www.capita-cs.co.uk/SiteColle...Installers.pdf

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    After seeing someone post some information in another post I created this .bat script and put it in a GPO Startup Script

    @ECHO OFF
    REM --- Check for an existing installation of Sims.net
    if exist "C:\Program Files\SIMS\SIMS .net\SOLUS.exe" goto _End

    @ECHO OFF

    "\\simsserver\simsroot\SIMS\Setups\SIMSApplication Setup.exe" /S {QuietMode} [SIMSDotNetDirectory]="C:\Program Files\SIMS\SIMS .net"
    REM --- End of the script
    :_End
    Last edited by irsprint84; 6th January 2011 at 01:02 PM.

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    I heard that later this year you will be able to remotely install SIMS.net from your Server in a similar way to how you may do with Anti Virus software.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandgeekmafia78 View Post
    I heard that later this year you will be able to remotely install SIMS.net from your Server in a similar way to how you may do with Anti Virus software.
    That is probably a reference to SOLUS 3.2.74 which is now available!
    Last edited by Sivadam; 6th January 2011 at 01:38 PM.

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    Where can I get solus 3 from? cant see it in usual places

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