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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    I had forgotten to mention that my MSI also adds the following INI file entries;
    %WINDIR%\CONNECT.INI
    [SIMSConnection]
    ServerName=MySIMSServerName\SIMS
    DatabaseName=SIMS

    %INSTALLDIR%\CONNECT.INI
    [SIMSConnection]
    Redirect=S:\SIMS
    [SIMSOffline]
    PreviousRedirect=S:\SIMS
    PreviousServerName=MySIMSServer\SIMS
    PreviousDatabaseName=SIMS
    PreviousDatabaseMode=OnLine

    %WINDIR%\SIMS.INI
    [Setup]
    SIMSSetupsDirectory=S:\SIMS\Setups

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    Turned out ajb that it needed the s: drive mapped

    Yes those commands were run from a .CMD

    Someone on the Capita forums had a good sugestion: replace Redirect=S:\SIMS with Redirect=<UNCPath>\SIMS - to prevent the error of the link to the connect.ini being substituted to the C: drive when the network connection wasn't there > saving a lot of support visits.

    I will check the ini files to see what they have now - unfortunately I disabled remote access earlier so no play time tonight! :P

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    Well, for what it's worth, I did a test this afternoon with a freshly built server. Installed SIMS. Added a workstation and ran those commands. No S: drive required and they worked fine. I've also deployed my MSI to hundreds of workstations on different sites with no problems! SIMS eh? :?

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    My staff server is a little strange being on its own child domain with limited permissions from the main domain, which must explain the oddity. [My workstations are on the main domain and the sims server the child domain - staff users log into the staff child domain. Confused yet?! :P ]

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    When I deploy SIMS.NET to PCs on Curriculum domains (seperate from Admin domains but connected by trust relationship), the only permissions I grant are as follows;

    SIMSSETUPS share: Everyone: Read
    SIMSSETUPS folder: Authenticated Users: Read
    SIMS folder: SIMSREADLONLY group: Read

    The SIMSREADONLY group contains users from the Curriculum domain who are allowed to run SIMS.NET

    On the Curriculum domain I have a SIMSUSERS group, which is just used to limit the users who get the S: drive connected to the SIMS share on the Admin server.

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    Up early ajb!

    No users on our Curriculum Domain are allowed to run SIMS .net, and don't need any access to the Staff Domain.

    It's just the machines that are on the Curriculum Domain that need access, so Everyone: Read should work - I'll check if that's the case.

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    Always up early thanks to my '3 year old boy' alarm clock!

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    JD

    Batch file method - checks for installed file

    S: Drive mapped then hidden with hidecalc [just don't trust them staff! :P]

    Copied start menu items to default user as Teachers have standard/ non roaming profiles

    Scripted adding the simsuser group to local power users - tho' must try Ritchie's idea of running simsload as startup, then pulsar when they're logged in, as that runs fine as a standard user.

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    Doesn't SIMSLOAD look at the network for the latest version? If so, running it at startup won't work 'cos startup scripts run in the SYSTEM context, which has no network access. Unless you manage to do a RUNAS in some way...

    Incidently, I found a problem with my MSI. It fails to install .NET1.1 from SIMSInfrastructureSetup. I think this is because, in effect, it's a nested MSI. I'd not noticed the problem before because I always deploy .NET1.1 to all PCs via GP anyway.

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    Quote Originally Posted by mark
    Scripted adding the simsuser group to local power users
    I've noticed a potential problem with this. Some of a access rights granted by SIMSPERM are not available to PowerUsers (something on HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT IIRC). I'm working on an AutoIT script which sequences the installation, including copying SIMSPERM.BAT and SUBINCAL.EXE to a local temp folder then running them with the SIMSUSERS group as a parameter. I'll post this when it's tested.

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    I think that's what the Capita guy was on about when he said that you need to run infrastructure setup locally, because the .net component wont run.

    I've been running a few power users for a while and not noticed any problem. Look forward to your fix tho' AJ - thanks for that.

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    I have created a package with WinInstall LE and tried to deploy with GPO in Windows Server 2003 R2. RSOP returns a fatal error with a message that an ini file in a windows sub folder cannot be updated. Of course SIMS does not install. Any one come across this and successfully rolled out with WinInstall?

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    I would strongly advise against repackaging SIMS for the following reasons;

    1 - It's a .NET app, which makes it more complicated.

    2 - SIMS update it every other week which means your package will soon be out of date.

    3 - The SIMS automatic update mechanism might be defeated by Windows Installer self repair.

    If you need to deplpoy by GPO, use wrap the silent install commands in an MSI (using something like Windows Installer Wrapper Wizard - mentioned in the WiKi)

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    Thanks for the advice. I tried to use WIWW but when I run it, there is an error message relating to missing components. All I am trying to do is to deploy SIMS quickly onto 150 staff desktops/laptops. Looking at the earlier posts, it seems that a batch file would do this. I'll give each a try, or else it is back to manual installs on all of these!

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    Re: Deployment of SIMs

    @pmassingham: Yep, I've had that with WIWW before now. What OS are you running on? I find it's OK on XP SP2. Yes, a batch file will do it, but you'll have to visit every machine, log in and run the batch file. I've not reviewed the thread, but it may be possible to run it remotely using PSEXEC (from sysinternals.com). I'm working on an AutoIt script (which compiles to .EXE). When I've tested it a bit more, I'll post it.

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