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MIS Systems Thread, Cost of giving parent access to SIMS in Technical; Originally Posted by CarolBooth What should I expect to pay for a SharePoint server and do I really need 2? ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolBooth View Post
    What should I expect to pay for a SharePoint server and do I really need 2? TALMOS want 10K for this.

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    It works on the free version of Sharepoint called Sharepoint Services.

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    If you Windows Sharepoint Services with the internal SQL database, then you only need pay for the hardware, Windows server licence, and Windows CALs (such as per-user CALs for staff, and Windows external connector for parents), plus the cost of SLG and annual maintenace.

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    For MOSS2007 Server

    MOSS 2007 Server license
    MOSS 2007 For internet sites license
    MOSS 2007 CALs for Staff users
    Windows Server CALs for Staff users
    Windows External Connector (covers non employees - students, parents)

    For the Sims server
    SQL per proc license (or express)
    Windows Server CALs for Staff Users (if bought per user above then this will cover all internal servers accessed from outside)
    Windows External Connector

    Internal servers are covered by the multiplexing licensing requirements, so if users are authenticated and access a *Windows* server even through sharepoint (or anything else) then you will still need the relevant CALs and external connector licenses.

    We want to use the exchange integration too so only need some per user CALs for it as only staff will have access.

    For our site (150 staff, 1100 students) it's around £9k for MS licenses alone.

    The break even point between just getting Sharepoint CALs for all users (staff, students (parents free when students are licensed) and the For Internet sites licenses is around the 400 student or so level.

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    David, pardon my ignorance but will this allow me to use reports to provide information only on the child of the parent who is logged in? The information I'm going to get out of SIMS is for all students, so what are you linking the student SIMS IDs with? Can you give a bit more information about what you're doing with AD?
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    Write reports in SIMS that produce the data you want, then use the CommandReporter tool to export that data from SIMS and re-present it how you want. I'm sorting out our system getting usernames / group membership from SIMS to AD/LDAP today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhicks View Post
    Write reports in SIMS that produce the data you want, then use the CommandReporter tool to export that data from SIMS and re-present it how you want. I'm sorting out our system getting usernames / group membership from SIMS to AD/LDAP today.

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    Hi David,

    we currently have integration between sims.net and active directory. I have put in place a script that checks all students against AD, if the student doesn't have an account it will create them one.

    We are currently packaging up our scripts, so we can release them with a howto on integrating SIMS.net and moodle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolBooth View Post
    Can anyone help with ideas on cheaper ways of giving parents access to SiMS data (like attendance, assessment and timetable) without buying the Capita SIMS web parts?

    I want to leave the Learning Gateway offered by our LA and have Moodle happily covering the VLE side but just got a quote for 15k from Talmos to set us up 2 servers with the web parts on. I believe the web parts themselves cost 5800. THe LA are telling us that we will get SIMS web parts included in their offering (which costs about 3K per year).

    Are there any open source solutions?

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    Hi Carol,

    I have created a moodle block which displays the student or staff timetable.
    it shouldn't be hard to pull attendance or assessment data, i will be looking into this next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMcCoy View Post
    For MOSS2007 Server
    MOSS 2007 Server license
    MOSS 2007 For internet sites license
    MOSS 2007 CALs for Staff users
    Do you have rough per user rates etc for each of those as I am looking at MOSS right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroHour View Post
    Do you have rough per user rates etc for each of those as I am looking at MOSS right now.
    Server £570
    For internet sites £5280
    Standard Sharepoint CAL £12.80

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    Hi Carol

    2 servers for SharePoint one SQL and one Web, for either MOSS 2007 or WSS 3 would be a minimum recommendation where you are expecting significant usage. Often customers also consider using ISA server to publish SharePoint over the internet for more flexibility and added security.

    When choosing a solution I would also factor in the support requirements of SharePoint against having SharePoint and SLG hosted for you.

    All the best, Jeremy

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