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MIS Systems Thread, FMS - upgrade - in Technical; Brace yourself, this is going to get complicated.... Ok...our bursar got hold of FPS.net by HCSSeducation. This will interface between ...
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    FMS - upgrade -

    Brace yourself, this is going to get complicated....

    Ok...our bursar got hold of FPS.net by HCSSeducation. This will interface between FPS and FMS 6.100.

    Now things get complex ...

    We are running FMS 6.83 , on a seperate server to SIMS. From speaking with someone today at Capita, I was told that essentially what we need to do is upgrade to FMS 6.85 , then upgrade to FMS 6.91 , at which point we could then upgrade to 6.100 in a few weeks.. and along the way we can do our FMS Migration which is required before august.

    Now..as I say, our FMS is seperate to our SIMS, so we dont have solus on the FMS server, so cant get the upgrades that way. If we try to setup solus on the FMS server it complains that it isnt a sims workstation or sql server.

    So, my query essentially, is whats the easiest way for us to get FMS6.83 , FMS6.91 and FMS6.100

    Or am I just being thick?

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    Sounds like you will need to get the FMS Setup CD(s) from capita.

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    I remember there being a download available for some past versions, was wondering if that still existed, tried the old links but theres nothing there now

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    could you not just put the sims workstation install on the fms server?

    ...I didn't think they did upgrades from .83 to .91 anyway but through solus, which is why you needed to use an old cd to install a new workstation

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    Anyone know if sticking sims workstation installation on our FMS server will work out ok?

    I dont really have time to be farting about recovering FMS if it cocks up by putting sims workstation on there, so would preferably like to know in advance that it'll work out ok

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    well, our sims and fms are on the same server, and we have sims workstation on their too. so i don't see it being an issue.

    Its a seperate app, using a seperate database....

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    If you just stick workstation on and run SOLUS it will complain that there is no valid SQLApplicationDirectory

    "SIMS SQL Apps Directory does not exist: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL$SIMS\Binn"

    I guess you could try pointing that the UNC of the Binn folder or some other (Valid folder) on the local server by changing SIMS.ini,

    I wouldn't fancy it though,

    Capita's line is this for CD's:

    "The FMS 6.83 CD image URL is available on request from the helpdesk. Please log a case via Web Support in the usual way or phone the helpdesk on 01234 832020.

    The reason for this is that we need to check the licence before we release the password"



    And for how they affect one another KB54488


    "Affected Products SIMS .net Installation & Upgrade

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    Notes Will the SIMS.net upgrade effect the FMS upgrade and vice versa?
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    Advice FMS and SIMS.net upgrades are deployed via seperate urls. They do not effect one another. "

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    Thanks, I wonder if they have a cd image for 6.85 , 6.91 and 6.100 as well.

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    I think you will probably need these upgrades released on solus. I'm not aware of there being cd versions for those.

    6.91 will also need a license from capita. The 6.85 -> 6.91 process is quite involved and needs various data to be recorded by someone who knows whats in fms really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMcCoy View Post
    I think you will probably need these upgrades released on solus. I'm not aware of there being cd versions for those.

    6.91 will also need a license from capita. The 6.85 -> 6.91 process is quite involved and needs various data to be recorded by someone who knows whats in fms really.
    That could be a bit of a bugger for us as we dont have solus on the FMS server. Maybe I might have to go ahead and try shoving sims workstation on it and hoping I can get it to work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake View Post
    Thanks, I wonder if they have a cd image for 6.85 , 6.91 and 6.100 as well.
    You can get an image of 6.85 from Capita support - they are on their FTP server - I had to get them last week for our upgrade (though it did take them 2 days to realise that they were available) - while I was on - I did notice a 6.100 image there too - not a 6.91 though.

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    We have sims and fms on one server, and also a separate standalone install of FMS.
    Whenever i need to update the standalone, i have to manually copy the files over from the main server to the local standalone machine and then run them.
    There's only a couple of files. Even if you don't have another FMS setup, surely these upgrades are the same everywhere, so someone could just send them to you.
    I'll double check what the files are tomorrow at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpuffMonkey View Post
    You can get an image of 6.85 from Capita support - they are on their FTP server - I had to get them last week for our upgrade (though it did take them 2 days to realise that they were available) - while I was on - I did notice a 6.100 image there too - not a 6.91 though.
    Got a link for their FTP? At least I can get to 6.85

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    Im guessing its the following site but you still need to contact capita support to get a username and password to get in.

    ftp.sims-capita.co.uk:22

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    Quote Originally Posted by apeo View Post
    Im guessing its the following site but you still need to contact capita support to get a username and password to get in.

    ftp.sims-capita.co.uk:22
    Thanks, i've contacted Capita regarding it today, and also about the FMS migration. Given our seperated FMS and SIMS situation , I am apprehensive about the FMS migration , so figured I would just double check in advance any issues

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