GREED (10th July 2014)
Not sure if people have seen this announcement on twitter, but...
Schools Hosted Service for SIMS | CloudStore | Gov.UK
Note, this is provision of Sims7 as hosted solution.
GREED (10th July 2014)
Looking at this it seems to be aimed at primaries.,I think thus could be very helpful to them.
Would it involve local sims clients connecting to the hosted server or something like a Remote App version of sims too.
The hosting section says £99 per user per year but what is the additional per Gb per year?
Also how much I just the licensing? Would we still be paying the same costs plus this extra for hosting?
It certainly raises a lot of questions and will be an interesting topic to follow.
To even it out a bit, they're playing catch up... 4 other MIS players have been on it for a while... and it's the whole package not just hosting...
Arbor Education Adaptive Management Platform | CloudStore | Gov.UK
RM Integris G2:
Integris G2 | CloudStore | Gov.UK
Bromcom Cloud MIS for Primary Schools | CloudStore | Gov.UK
Last edited by matt40k; 10th July 2014 at 07:09 PM.
RemoteApp/Terminal Server style service and Government Cloud:
It is very important to note that Government Cloud policy does not allow products that do not conform to NIST definition of the cloud (ie 'true cloud'). Legacy thick Windows/client-server applications hosted centrally fall under 'fake cloud' category.
Please see bottom of page-3: https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...strategy_0.pdf
For a simple language explanation - please see Euro Cloud Vice President Phil Wainewright's video clip on True v Fake Cloud: http://youtu.be/qXfBlKTA8LI
So would this still need us to have a server on site or could the whole lot be hosted by Capita ?
I don't understand how they can call it "cloud" if its just a terminal server solution?
Surely a cloud platform is web based?
@Bromcom-PR No, I'm sorry, but they are offering facility for SIMS (albeit you have to have an additional SIMS licence too) as part of the package... You cannot just buy hosting and not use SIMS as part of that offer. I think the wording misinterpretation is in the fact you have to still pay for SIMS too, that is a little bit devious. You would not buy this unless you intend to use SIMS in the (fake) cloud.
Perhaps this is offering facility to enable SIMS to be used in the (fake) cloud... perhaps this is the fine line GovStore have not crossed. Either way, it is there and I fail to see how drawing attention that it is not a cloud product (yet for all intent and purpose is being offered as one) makes any difference?
GREED, we are not disagreeing. In fact 'SIMS Hosting' service should not be under SaaS and it should be under PaaS.
It is not likely that CloudStore Team will scrutinises if PaaS on offer is promoted/intended to be used for application software that may result in TRUE or FAKE Cloud.
So if I am reading this correctly:
Capita will effectively host your sims and give you terminal server access to it. This saves them from re-writing SIMS they can just use the software they already have.
So, you won't need your server. What will this cost? A minimum of £990 per year (10 user minimum) plus £429 set up. All this is on top of what you are already paying capita for licencing and support.
If you have 70 staff that use if for registers your looking at around an extra £7000/year.
Integris and Arbour will cost a lot less than just hosting SIMS, let alone licencing it.
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