Plan to plan for change. Sounds like a good plan.The change management particularly with your staff is where I would suggest significant planning is placed...
GREED (9th May 2014)
Hummmm well unless you are going to port the data yourself and not have the new supplier do it, your insinuation that a school would be using a standard data field or set of data fields for anything but their intended use would have me worried. The CTF for the most part contains the standard mission critical data components for students, this should be perfectly portable from one system to another if mapped correctly at both ends. I think this is where I meant, that the mapping is the key item that an expertise is required with. There are some items that are impossible to generically map and require a helping hand, such as assessment fields. But for example in Sims you have only a limited set of places you can record attendance, that would port to the corresponding locations in the new system. Same with just about every data item that is available in both (a key term there!).
Of course the CTF is no where near comprehensive enough to support this, and I tire of hearing MIS suppliers saying they do a full migration just by using the CTF... It shows me that they have no real idea what the CTF is, does and contains!
Sorry, appear to have wandered into a rant there!
I'm not saying that it can be made perfect but a working knowledge of the legacy and new system is critical in mapping correctly.
See, I must have had you wrong. "only where the architects of such tools are ignorant or inexperienced in the MIS space and/or with suppliers" suggested to me that CTF should be good, the development of CTF not having been deprived of that expertise. So now I know I have you wrong, but I'm not really sure I have you right either.Of course the CTF is no where near comprehensive enough to support this, and I tire of hearing MIS suppliers saying they do a full migration just by using the CTF... It shows me that they have no real idea what the CTF is, does and contains!
The reality for us I think, will look more like an operational handover but between systems rather than people. CTF will save us a lot of re-key in core data I'm sure, but the handover will inevitably involve data cleaning in the current system - and that will to some extent be an iterative process. Some legacy data I'm sure we will just sort of abandon - but we need to understand what, why and the constraints that might impose in future. Again here a pre prepared list of stuff might be useful, but actually the process of getting the people on the ground to generate that information is in some ways much more important.
Last edited by pcstru; 9th May 2014 at 12:58 AM.
You will definitely need to go through a process of data checking and cleansing, if nothing else it is a good opportunity. Generally though my point in whether and automated process or a semi manual one, unless you are going to do it yourself no tool or supplier will check every field for every record when data is migrated. Checks on data structure and validation will be automatic and then random spot checks will occur, but it should be down to you as the school to check the conceptual and operational information. In the example you use, a validation rule in the new system might not allow you to enter that even if you were adding a new phone number. Is there an appropriate place to store that? Things like that. Only you as the school know what that sort of information means to you so only you can manage it.
This doesn't mean however that a tool ot process is not suitable to use, just needs to work in conjunction with yourselves!
Do you mean the IM chat services you get these day? I really like them!
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seriously, what about DoubleFirst Engage , iSAMS, WCBS, Tribal, Scholarpack, RM, ACS, Plus4Schools, not to mention a simple Google search will find you 100s of online offerings. Those mentioned however, are probably the more popular.
Don't encourage and antagonise... you are a mod!erm, has anyone said Bromcom yet? .. ..
Oi, read my rather well thought-out post and you'll see most are mentioned there!!seriously, what about DoubleFirst Engage , iSAMS, WCBS, Tribal, Scholarpack, RM, ACS, Plus4Schools
GREED, quick hit him with the mod stick! Going back on topic, not sure how well IM would work for MIS support. Tend to find you telephone for "instant" help and email for "at some point".
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