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MIS Systems Thread, Summer 2013 and XP in Technical; Reading through the info for the Summer 2013 update, I noticed this: This is the final release compatible with Windows ...
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    Summer 2013 and XP

    Reading through the info for the Summer 2013 update, I noticed this:

    This is the final release compatible with Windows XP and Windows Server 2003
    Thats a bit quick, a lot of us are stuck with XP machines until they can be upgraded to Win7. And does that mean SIMS will not work on XP, or is not supported (2 entirely different things!)

    By my reckoning we're going to need to upgrade about 100 extra PCs - not good!

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    It should continue to work - it's a matter of no longer being supported.

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    This has been fairly well announced for some time now. We updated from 2003/XP at the beginning of the year on the basis. I'm led to believe that Capita no longer support 2003/XP so chances are you'll experience problems with the SIMS summer update

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    I spoke to capita last week and issues will start happening at the Autumn release.

    You should be fine until then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheridan View Post
    Reading through the info for the Summer 2013 update, I noticed this:



    Thats a bit quick, a lot of us are stuck with XP machines until they can be upgraded to Win7. And does that mean SIMS will not work on XP, or is not supported (2 entirely different things!)

    By my reckoning we're going to need to upgrade about 100 extra PCs - not good!
    To be fair they have been saying it for a long time. You should be moving off XP anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheridan View Post
    Reading through the info for the Summer 2013 update, I noticed this:

    Thats a bit quick, a lot of us are stuck with XP machines until they can be upgraded to Win7. And does that mean SIMS will not work on XP, or is not supported (2 entirely different things!)

    By my reckoning we're going to need to upgrade about 100 extra PCs - not good!
    From my understanding - it should carry on working for a bit, but if you have any issues and you're still on XP, they'll tell you to update before approaching the issue.

    I believe they've been warning of this for a couple of years now.

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    We only took over SIMS internally last year, and I never saw any mention of XP Support dying in the previous updates (Spring 2013 and Autumn 2012)

    We can upgrade a good few under existing licensing, but theres a lot of older kit (laptops) that would effectively need replacing. If I had my way we'll replace the lot, but with no budget its pretty difficult!

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    .Net 4.5 has no support for Windows XP. If (more like when) they starting changing code into 4.5 it simply wont work on XP.
    @Sheridan Read the roadmap documents been in there for ages (well over a year).
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    assuming the served side is ok for you could you not just buy x ts lics and run it as an rdp app would save fixing every pc when they inevitibly dont get the update and throw up incompatible database errors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sted View Post
    assuming the served side is ok for you could you not just buy x ts lics and run it as an rdp app would save fixing every pc when they inevitibly dont get the update and throw up incompatible database errors?
    That will only help for a while, security update will finish in less than 12 months so you will have to upgrade the OS anyway.

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    Server is 2008R2 so thats ok for the time being. By the end of the summer around 80% of the 'important' PCs will be Windows 7, but the remaining 20% are staff XP laptops that use SIMS occasionally. About half of the student PCs in the suites will still be XP buts thats OK as they don't need to run SIMS!

    As I came into the SIMS support abruptly I've only been reading the individual release documentation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    That will only help for a while, security update will finish in less than 12 months so you will have to upgrade the OS anyway.
    why if your running 2008r2 as a ts dosent matter wether you using xp/7/8/linux/ios/android on the client its running on 2008r2. Granted xp will have no support but if the pcs arnt being replaced then we will just have to deal with an eol'd os

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    A question to @PhilNeal: We have a lot of people asking about this. Clearly folks are not reading the roadmap on SupportNet or even listening to discussions here. Would it be permissible to post a copy of the roadmap clearly in the MIS forum loudly warning everyone about the death of XP support? I can see a lot of these threads appearing in the Autumn.
    Last edited by CAM; 15th July 2013 at 12:09 PM.

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    and i really still dont get why attendance cant be web based so it will run on owt as long as you have the password its just data into an sql database

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    Attendance is also linked to Behaviour Management, Curriculum Management, Timetable and other areas of SIMS.

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