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    SIM.ini problem - cannot be located or is incomplete

    Hi,

    We are upgrading our admin system machines here at school and instead of forking out over £1000 for Oneconnect to come in and upgrade them from XP to Windows 7, I thought i'd do it myself.

    All gone well except installing SIMS and FMS!

    SIMS is on our server.

    Gone into our S: drive, sims setups, found the SIMSInst file but that doesn't work- it says the 'Infrastructure is missing' so i tried the SIMS Application setup. All went well but on launching it, it says: The SIMS.ini file cannot be located or is incomplete which means the system cannot be automatically updated.

    What is going wrong? Help very much appreciated!

    xx

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    I don't know if that has been fixed but back in the day there were permission issues with the local SIMS folders on the PC on W7, could be your first port of call. Of course, make sure the sims.ini file is there in the first place!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREED View Post
    I don't know if that has been fixed but back in the day there were permission issues with the local SIMS folders on the PC on W7, could be your first port of call. Of course, make sure the sims.ini file is there in the first place!
    What do you suggest i do re permissions? I've found the connect.ini file but it doesn't do anything.

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    Open it up in wordpad, you'll see the text there. If you have not seen this before it won't mean much, so might be worth copy/paste onto here for people to diagnose.

    With the permissions, all users need to be able to read to the folder/file. at least.

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    I am hoping someone with more recent knowledge can jump in soon too!

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    Usually means the SIMSInfrastructureSetup.exe is missing form the S:\SIMS\Setups folder as SIMSInst,exe calls other installers.

    As for the SIMS.INI, that gets created in C:\WINDOWS when you run SIMSInst.exe. As thats not working, the SIMS.INI may not exist/be incomplete. Running SIMS will check for upgrades and use the SIMS.INI to locate the setups folder. If it's missing, it may not run. You can manually create your own with the following to get it working: (Save as SIMS.INI to C:\WINDOWS)

    Code:
    [Setup]
    SIMSDotNetDirectory=C:\Program Files\SIMS\SIMS .net
    Folder=SIMS Applications
    SIMSSetupsDirectory=D:\SIMSAREA\SIMS\Setups
    SIMSDirectory=S:\SIMS
    Use the local path for the setups folder on the server. Once done, try SIMSInst.exe again and it should pick up everything. Failing that, just run SIMS and it can install any missing bits (like the SIMS Manuals)
    Last edited by Rawns; 24th January 2013 at 12:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawns View Post
    Usually means the SIMSInfrastructureSetup.exe is missing form the S:\SIMS\Setups folder as SIMSInst,exe calls other installers.
    Definitely there- it's not missing... :/

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    Yes, as mentioned install using SIMSInst.exe

    sims.ini is usually located in C:\Windows directory. It may have not been created either due to permissions or UAC being enabled.
    I have just manually copied it over from a known working computer in the past.

    SIMSperm command was used in the past to setup the permissions correctly.

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    Try running sims with elevated administrator privelages - its a checkbox on the 'compatability' tab of sims.net properties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandgeekmafia78 View Post
    Try running sims with elevated administrator privelages - its a checkbox on the 'compatability' tab of sims.net properties.
    Or for Win 7, right-click and Run as Administrator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawns View Post
    Or for Win 7, right-click and Run as Administrator.
    That too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawns View Post
    Usually means the SIMSInfrastructureSetup.exe is missing form the S:\SIMS\Setups folder as SIMSInst,exe calls other installers.

    As for the SIMS.INI, that gets created in C:\WINDOWS when you run SIMSInst.exe. As thats not working, the SIMS.INI may not exist/be incomplete. Running SIMS will check for upgrades and use the SIMS.INI to locate the setups folder. If it's missing, it may not run. You can manually create your own with the following to get it working: (Save as SIMS.INI to C:\WINDOWS)

    Code:
    [Setup]
    SIMSDotNetDirectory=C:\Program Files\SIMS\SIMS .net
    Folder=SIMS Applications
    SIMSSetupsDirectory=D:\SIMSAREA\SIMS\Setups
    SIMSDirectory=S:\SIMS
    Use the local path for the setups folder on the server. Once done, try SIMSInst.exe again and it should pick up everything. Failing that, just run SIMS and it can install any missing bits (like the SIMS Manuals)
    Looks like this worked, installed everything etc... restarted- no SIMS in start menu or in C: drive... very bizarre! Doing it again...

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    The connect.ini for us is in the s drive. if you are using UAC you usually have to double map the s drive (once for regular user and one again for admin) You will also need to run the simsperm.bat on the local machine.

    Heres a few lines from my install doc for my technician:

    o Run the simsperm batch file from an Admin CMD.
    1. Net Use S: \\dcc4505-2\sims
    2. CD /d S:\sims\setups
    3. Simsperm.bat dcc-sch-4505\staff
    4. Check for errors “should read like: done 1213 modified 1213 failed 0 syntax 0”
    o Run Sims and point to the correct connect.ini file in s:\sims

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    Quote Originally Posted by marsdenprimary View Post
    Looks like this worked, installed everything etc... restarted- no SIMS in start menu or in C: drive... very bizarre! Doing it again...
    Forgot to say in my post (but sure it's obvious anyway) ensure the values in the SIMS.INI match your own environment! That was a straight copy/paste from mine.

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    I was going to say the infrastructure file might be too old, but if there is one in there, run it manually would have helped.
    I'd say log in as the admin account if you can.
    If you runas admin then it might be why the shortcuts weren't created. I'm sure on my server only the admin account can see them.

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