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    SIMs - Upgrading every launch

    Hey,

    One of the primaries near us are having a problem where SIMs will try to upgrade everytime it's launched. Even though the update installs and works first time it still tries to do it again.

    Is there some file or sonething that is checked to see if an update is needed and may not be being created correctly?

    Or any thoughts?

    Thanks,
    Steve

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    What operating system is it? Can you see the shared drive?

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    You could try renaming the simsload.ini in the SIMS programfiles folder.

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    You can bypass the upgrade running everytime by just using the shortcut to the SIMS application. This can be done by running pulsar.exe from {windows dir}\program files\SIMS\SIMS .net

    Note if you do this then it will not look for an update and if the server has been updated then SIMS will not run.

    You need to be sure that all clients are on the latest version for this to work.

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    When it comes to updates/upgrades there's 2 files, simsload.ini in the sims folder and sims.ini in the windows folder (%systemroot%). Need write access to both.

    As EvlPhenom says you can however bypass the check and load SIMS right away.

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    Hijack!

    What does it mean when an update has been done, but you have to be an admin to get it to work on the workstation?

    Guessing a permissions issue but where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apeo View Post
    When it comes to updates/upgrades there's 2 files, simsload.ini in the sims folder and sims.ini in the windows folder (%systemroot%). Need write access to both.

    As EvlPhenom says you can however bypass the check and load SIMS right away.
    Yep, it will be the simsload if it keeps trying to upgrade, it checks for the file version of simsapplicationsetup in simsload.ini so if it hasn't been updated due to permissions then it will keep trying. Most likely the install also just says 'skipping' a lot as it's already been done before. I would sort out the permissions rather than bypass simsload.exe .

    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Miss View Post
    Hijack!

    What does it mean when an update has been done, but you have to be an admin to get it to work on the workstation?

    Guessing a permissions issue but where?
    Permissions, but i thought we'd sorted your permissions out in that other thread. Make sure they have permission to all the relevant folders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Miss View Post
    Hijack!

    What does it mean when an update has been done, but you have to be an admin to get it to work on the workstation?

    Guessing a permissions issue but where?
    Sounds like permissions but not sure what you mean by get it to work.. assume someone has mentioned simsperm.bat in the other thread vikpaw mentions?

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    You have a good memory Vicpaw! I thought i'd dreamt id asked that!! I thought i'd sorted it toooo.

    Sorry, wrote that post really quick. I meant to get the workstation to do its update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve21 View Post
    Hey,

    One of the primaries near us are having a problem where SIMs will try to upgrade everytime it's launched. Even though the update installs and works first time it still tries to do it again.

    Is there some file or sonething that is checked to see if an update is needed and may not be being created correctly?

    Or any thoughts?

    Thanks,
    Steve
    Normally find the re-occuring updates is either permissions or the sims.ini has the wrong SIMSDirectory= set.

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    Mmm, Renamed the ini and it created a fresh one, and still does it. So it has permissions to write to it.

    It's also updating correctly (on the first update), so can see shares etc.

    Will try to check out the permissions, and ini settings bit further and see if I'm missing something.

    Thanks all,
    Steve

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    Which ini did you delete?
    Can you manually read the simsload.ini file and check the simsapplicationssetup version number, if it doesn't match the version number of said file in setups directory, that might do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikpaw View Post
    Which ini did you delete?
    Can you manually read the simsload.ini file and check the simsapplicationssetup version number, if it doesn't match the version number of said file in setups directory, that might do it.
    The SIMsLoad.ini (The one that stores file versions in). Checked the version in the newly created ini and it's the same as the server. Which in my books means no reason for it to upgrade....

    Will have to take another look in the morning and see if I'm missing something obvious.

    Thanks,
    Steve

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    Hmm, try Matt's suggestion, it could be looking at another folder, and picking up the wrong file version. Changed server install lately?

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    Is it definitely the workstation element (specifically simsapplicationsetup) it's trying to run each time? It's not one of the other ones it trying to run each time?



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