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    How are your mac's connected ?

    Just wondering how you get your users to access their Networked Home Directories or a shared area from their mac's?

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    Re: How are your mac's connected ?

    Using Samba I would have thought.

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    Re: How are your mac's connected ?

    Sorry perhaps I should have made it clearer !

    How much integration do you have on your networks ?

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    Re: How are your mac's connected ?

    Ok I shall shut up then :P

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    Re: How are your mac's connected ?

    Apart from a slightly sick feeling in my stomach and the hairs going up on the back of my neck, we dont have a problem integrating within our network.

    Our mac's tend to come with their own McServer or BigMac to make the integration easier and creates a layer of segregation between Mac & PC resources. But for tighter integration and for further info on this subject have a butchers at http://www.macwindows.com/

    The biggest problem we have is with authentication against our domains. Basically, there is none. They are setup as SecureNAT and they have carte blanche to go wherever they please on the Internet.

    The only thing we can do is point out to the powers concerned that they are flouting their 'due diligence' because we dont know who are using them, ergo, if there are any 'incidents' we cannot prove anything because all the FW & Proxy logs come up as 'anonymous' instead of a neat and tidy username.

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    Re: How are your mac's connected ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mungo
    The biggest problem we have is with authentication against our domains. Basically, there is none. They are setup as SecureNAT and they have carte blanche to go wherever they please on the Internet.
    I will admit that I don't know much [anything] about Macs but shouldn't Open Directory allow integration into your domain? You could also take a look at the SAMBA documentation.

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    Re: How are your mac's connected ?

    Sry, badly worded.

    We get the interaction in terms of file and print etc but ISA Server (which we have a lot of, locally at schools site and centrally) simply lets it through autonomously without recording who is actually using (username) that Mac so when we try to track down who has been looking at www.chubbylover.com, ISA doesnt know. We just have a time and an IP. Big hole in audit trail means I dont get to bollock anyone, which is after all, most of the fun.

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    Re: How are your mac's connected ?

    You can go down the route Ric mentions by using Open Directory and Active Directory integration, though this seems like a lot of hard work. Theres a White Paper on this at http://www.afp584.com. Or you could look into a couple off apps namely Dave by Thursby and there is Mac Administrator by Hi resolution. Both are worth looking at the later probably more so. Can you not set your proxy to request a username and password when accessed from the macs?

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    Re: How are your mac's connected ?

    they connect with my foot, via a dropkick to the skip.

    </helpful>

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    Re: How are your mac's connected ?

    Hi.

    I'm a Mac user (there- I said it). And we are introducing a Tiger Server and about 10 clients (at the moment) into our existing AD network. Testing logons using a simple LDAP/AD bind process (using the Directory Access tool found in Utilities on any Mac) you can pretty much get your users authenticating with their *usual* accounts.

    If you want, you can map drives and all sorts but for that you tend to have to use (a) an expensive third party product like ADmitMac; or (b) buy a Tiger Server and extend your AD schema to allow you some management over users who will logon to your Mac systems.

    With Tiger (the latest OS release) things have gotten better. When I log in using my iBook to the AD as a normal user I can see my redirected "My Docs" and save work there etc. You could simply use User Manager on your Apple Server to lock things down a bit more. It's more complex than that, but worth it (I would say that- lol).

    Best place to go is the Apple UK website and look for Server documentation, making User Management and Open Directory guides your favourite ones for a month or so.

    Hope that helps- if not, help me understand what you need and I'll have a think about it.

    Paul

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    Re: How are your mac's connected ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex
    they connect with my foot, via a dropkick to the skip.

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    Never used Macs and Os X then Alex?

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    Re: How are your mac's connected ?

    Use Tiger, bind the machine to your AD domain and set it to use you network home areas (as assigned in the AD Schema) as the mounted home area on the mac.

    Be careful though. This is the same as folder redirection on W2K/XP boxes ... and by default new movies/dvds/photos/itunes goes into this directory.

    You can end up with students trying to edit digital media files on the fly across the network ...

    There are a variety of login hooks that you can use, and a number of hacks on the default user so that iMovie etc use the "shared" user space.

    Have a look at http://www.macenterprise.org/ (formerly macosxlabs.org) for more info and advice.

    I know of a number of Mac-only schools if you are interested in talking to them, and even someone who managed to get OSX happy on an RM CC3 network (but has to make numerous fixes everytime RM come out with a major patch).

    You could always speak to an Apple Solutions Expert for advice too ... Julian Coultas at Apple UK is the guy to speak to for your nearest / best one.

    HTH

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