I've worked on both systems and both work perfectly well in the same situations. Yes Macs are pretty and OSx is lovely to use. but if you're dedicating the ausio drivers to an external source with decent quality codecs you'll get no difference in performance.
Last edited by Davit2005; 24th April 2014 at 12:56 PM.
Agreed! You should always have something to do the work for you as the on board stuff just isn't up to scratch on either system.
In my blog I talk about this: http://www.studiospares.com/audio-in...i2/invt/389820
It's a lovely piece of kit, especially for the price
Mac Mini is very cheap (for a mac), when you knock off VAT and put the edu discount on. You do get some subject specific program's like garage band that are Apple platform only. So cost wise if you do the mini route I doubt there will be too much difference price wise and you keep the department happy. I doubt a basic PC running windows will be suitable and at the least may need a dedicated sound card as last time we used on board sound cards we had to put creative labs cards in the machines due to latency in Cubase.
May be I am off the topic, but either PC or Mac is just one element of Music Tech and both should not be a matter if the teacher knows how to teach Music Tech. All the software are fine whether that is Cubase, Pro Tool, Logic Pro or Reason, etc.
To get students to learn and interest them, you need to have all the right gears e.g. Audio Interface, MIDI controller, synthesizer, good pair of headphones (good pair of active monitors if in studio) , mixer, mic, different music sequencing software, good choice of plugins, Good quality of sampling and the list go on and on.
I went to two Music Tech schools both in London and Manchester, they have both PC and Mac for various purposes.
If for just MIDI recording and simple music on the music sequencing then use PC providing each PC has good quality Audio Interface.
If for Live Music recording then use Mac.
Norphy) will be specifying here for running logic goes ahead. We can get a Mac Mini plus a good quality Dell monitor for quite a bit less than an imac with the same size display.
At my last school the Art department gave us their iMacs in favour of PC's that both they and the students knew how to use, especially since using Adobe software does everything they could ever need.
As for teachers, HoD or not, demanding specific hardware, please bear in mind the staff don't always stay for long, i.e. a year or two and then they're off. The new incumbent may have a preference the other way, i.e. PC's and not iMac's!
I've had the above happen with Head of ICT demanding one software suite at a cost of thousands only for her to leave after one year and the next Head of ICT demand something else.
Don't respond to individual teacher demands. Expect SLT to take a strategic view of what's best for the school in the mid to long term. Short term strategies are often very costly...
We replaced a load of g5 imacs a couple of years back in our music dept. Best thing we ever did. Our support calls went right down - we only ever get called out for printer issues now.
You do need to look at the latency and audio issues as other have said, but a decent sound card or interface will sort this out.
We were recommended mixcraft as an alternative to garage band. Reaper is a reasonable alternative to logic.
We still use imacs in the recording studio, but they are more recent and not due for replacement. I've done live multi-track recording from our Behringer x32 mixer onto a new PC. No quality or latency issues - and thats up to 32 channels over usb2.
You do also need to look at training issues, but if they are already using PCs, I can't see any benefits in a school.
Ultimately, it should come down to the whole school priorities. If everyone else is expected to make lots of budget cuts then it would be wrong to get imacs. If there is lots of money available, then maybe - in some ways - they would be the preferred option if that's what the teachers are familiar with. But I would rather spend the extra on decent mics, speakers, pre-amps and instruments, and also on data storage. That would have a bigger impact on the quality of sound you get in the end.
ICTDirect_Dave (24th April 2014)
We (actually I did) installed 17 iMacs into the new Music rooms during October Half Term. The project started about a year earlier due to a new building for the PAMMS department.
They integrate with RM/Windows pretty badly but they work. Students log on with their PC/Windows Log on accounts and get a local account on that computer. They can then save anywhere, however to save to the network share, they have to physically save it in the drive assigned to them.
Installing software is done via an image, change the image, take a snap shot and then roll it out. Basic, but it works, however it has its downsides too.
Here we have Logic, Sibelius, Reason and Office on the iMacs. they also have MBPro in a trolley.
Cost wise, it was expensive. We didnt buy their keyboards, midi boxes, headphones etc as they had them already. We did buy the security brackets to clamp them to the worksurfaces, that was a days work in itself!
Overall, students were able to create something very quickly in their first Music lesson using this equipment. It made teaching Music Tech more interesting for the teachers and students.
mac_shinobi (24th April 2014)
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