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    ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    Can you recommend some specs and models please?

    We need about 15 macs for the music department, they need to obviously be man enough for music software, we will be using Sibelious, maybe Logic, and other software, needs to have all the correct outputs etc.

    Don't really know alot about them, other than "why the hell no right mouse button, do'h" lol, anyways, advice would be greatfully received.

    Many thanks

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    Re: ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    why Macs? A pc can do anything a mac can do!

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    Re: ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    Lets not go here....

    Everyone has their view on macs and lets agree to disagree.


    Russell

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    Re: ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    Need macs? 8O

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    Re: ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    Is it raining then ?

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    Re: ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    I used to sell Macs for a living - great machines. No, really, they are. It's the pretentious gits that use them and waffle on about how superior they are that p*** me off.

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    Re: ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    I would suggest getting the iMacs as they are easy to use and look good and not to expensive for education. We have quite a few here and had no vanadlism for 1 year since we had them.

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    Re: ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    Whatever you get you will need soundcards. M-Audio are a really decent make for your £. Perfect for schools imo.

    You will need to think; do i want a mac in which i can put an internal soundcard (is there such a thing?) or do i go the external route and pay double for the soundcard?

    Dont be put off by USB 1.1... or whatever. Any usb soundcard is perfectly capible of shunting enough data back and forth over the usb cable. You dont need firewire.

    Do you need midi? I persume you will. Does yoru mac have a midi port? If not you'll have to make sure your soundcard does. And what type of connector is it? A round (normal) one, or the gameport type one in which case you will need to budget for around £10 each for the adaptor.

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    Re: ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    Quote Originally Posted by StewartKnight
    why Macs? A pc can do anything a mac can do!
    I know, its not my decision, I tried, no one listened, therefor we are getting macs

    Quote Originally Posted by russdev
    Lets not go here....

    Everyone has their view on macs and lets agree to disagree.


    Russell
    I KNOW

    We just had a new recording studio and music rooms built and the "people" who setup the studio yelled "Macs" to my horror, I was in a different room but my techy senses tingled and I felt faint, and no amount of screaming "PC's can do it and they will talk to our network easier" helped.

    Thats what lead me here.

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    Re: ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    Had the same problem..

    you need IMACS

    but you also need to buy a Xserver unless you want you file server filled with massive music files..

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    Re: ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    We have 15 PC's for student use in our refurbished music room, each one has a audio keyboard with midi usb plugged in with a pukka audio soundcard and a small mixer.

    Music teacher has the same.

    Another one lives in the recording studio running the project mix i/o

    If you want more info shout.

    Ben

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    Re: ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    Plus the fact the advantage that a MAC has over a PC is that they tend to be industry standard in recording studios etc, etc. So that if any of the students goes into that side of things when they leave you will have already given them some good experience. And thats what school is all about IMHO.

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    Re: ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    We just had a new recording studio and music rooms built and the "people" who setup the studio yelled "Macs"
    God knows why, I've done some stints on hospital radio etc over the years, in fact I am just about to write and record some Jazz Programs for Hayes FM which has just been setup around the Hillingdon area and I'll be using PC based networks for that.
    In fact I've done tours of quite a few radio stations / recording studios in my time - and they tend to use PC based software for most things.....

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    Re: ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    We have just had a music teacher come into our school. He knows his music and has been given the task of teaching our primary kids garageband. I loaned him a usb keyboard to see what he thought of it since it was a reasonable price so we purchased a couple.

    Not really knowing much about music and lacking the ability to play any instrument myself, i was eager to get a pro's point of view. With a basic macbook, garageband and a £50 usb keyboard he was amazed at the clarity of the sound coming out at the other end, with no latency. You press a key and hear it.

    You can also configure the midi module/utility thingy as well but like i said i don't know much aboout the music side.

    This is quality out of the box and i think is what buyers are looking at.

    I came from a school that had a Music teacher who loved his technology to boot and so enjoyed getting high-end setups on the go (for PCs). He spent a fair amount on all the gadgets to get a good sound so at the end of the day the costs about the same.

    High-end sound cards cost but the macbooks and imacs don't really need them. From what i can hear they souond pretty decent and the guy who comes in says more or less the same.

    PCs can do the job but you need to know what you're doing to get the best out of them where garageband can give you some of that without trying.

    Just a point of view from some non music-maker.


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    Re: ok, here we go, we need macs.......... oooeeerrrr

    Clearly the technology is far too expensice to give technical people teh responsibility for a technical solution. If you can't cope with macs then make sure you get a support contract as well as the training.

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