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London Grid for Learning (LGfL) Thread, Separate Network in Regional Broadband Consortiums (RBC); I have just been told that an external company will be renting an office in the school. They said they ...
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    Separate Network

    I have just been told that an external company will be renting an office in the school. They said they have their own servers, computers, printers, switches and cables so essentially their own network with its own IP range and subnet (I asked them for these details and they said they didn't know them)

    I have been told they will need internet access

    I obviously want them to stay completely separate from the schools network and only have direct access to the internet

    What is the best way of doing this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by networkmangler View Post
    What is the best way of doing this?
    Get them to sort out their own feed?

    Seriously, they may be renting an office from the school but they aren't part of the school.

    You don't have to worry about their problems. Unless you do... then VLANs?

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    I would say your best bet is a separate ADSL line for them. Complete isolation.

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    Set up a line and let the business rent it off your for extra $$'s for the school (is that allowed?).

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    Can you afford to give up bandwidth for them? Let them get their own separate line in. If not then charge them a fortune for using yours.

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    Unless they are paying for internet connectivity as part of the rental agreement, I would expect them to arrange with the school the installation of a dedicated line.

    Otherwise setup a Linux box as a router that only forwards port 80 and 443 on to your router via vLan's or separate physical network (if they give you an IP range) and then throttle that connection to 1Mb

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    Set up a line and let the business rent it off your for extra $$'s for the school (is that allowed?).
    Possibly. If you have to buy something extra to meet contractual obligations [re: internet connection] then I believe you're allowed to charge for the work. Though this assumes there's some sort of SLA in place.

    [Standard "I aint no lawyer" disclaimer goes here.]


    Quote Originally Posted by Cablers_JonPaul View Post
    Let them get their own separate line in. If not then charge them a fortune for using yours.
    ^ This basically.

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    Something to bear in mind - if you let them use your connection, make sure you have it fully isolated from your own network so as to protect the data on your network per the DPA!

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    What about content filtering? If they are using your connection will you be responsible for content that gets through? Will they be ringing you every five minutes to open up sites? Business filtering will be different to that required by a school.

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    Get them to sort their own access out. I would not let them anywhere near the main network, vlan'd or not. What they do, even if it's vlanned up *WILL* have an impact on the speed of your school's internet connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiza View Post
    What about content filtering? If they are using your connection will you be responsible for content that gets through? Will they be ringing you every five minutes to open up sites? Business filtering will be different to that required by a school.
    If they insist on using the school connection, rather than getting their own then "Our child protection responsibilities trump your whims" seems an appropriate response.

    Along with a bill for hiring @networkmangler as a consultant.
    Last edited by X-13; 4th June 2014 at 11:32 AM.

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    Oh, also, you might want to check your contract with your ISP - subletting use of the internet connection is usually not allowed.

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    I think legally you'd need them to have a separate internet feed. I know a number of educational resources are licensed by your IP\broadband connection and Janet is only allowed for academic purposes which a number of RBCs piggy back off. So you could end up with no internet and legal action being thrown at you.

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    We are part of the LGFL and have an LGFL 2.0 connection so I need to speak to them and see what they say.

    I have been told they are moving in during the summer so I have a while to sort this out. It's not going to be as easy as the business manager suggested "Can't we just plug one of our network cables into there hub?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by networkmangler View Post
    the business manager suggested "Can't we just plug one of our network cables into there hub?"
    You are officially allowed to slap him for that comment.

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