Thanks to @Quackers for the pointer to Phoenix Paul Scaling at Phoenix recently sent me details of the new agreement that Adobe are introducing for Educational Establishment. Much like the Microsoft OVS Agreement it's based on FTE and the annual fee per full time employee is set at a tad over twenty pounds.
Adobe Design & Web Premium includes:
Photoshop Extended CS6
Acrobat X Pro CS6
Flash Pro CS6
Did everyone else already know about this or something?
I already knew about ETLA, but discounted it because it is only available to higher education institutions with over 500 FTEs.
EEA is outrageously expensive for what you are getting, so that just leaves the perpetual CS6 licenses as the only cost effective option for many schools. :(
Agree with above, it's vastly expensive. I think the majority of people are already looking elsewhere when their current package/license expires, or continue to use what they have until it's no longer suitable. Maybe it's because I'm directly comparing it to EES from MS where you're getting windows, office, majority of sccm, visio and a shedload more for less. Seems hard to quantify.
Thanks @Arthur and @synaesthesia I queried this with my contact at Phoneix and he assures me that:
"I can confirm that the ETLA agreement is open to any education body. I have 46 schools signed up to the agreement. The agreement started Feb 2013..."
How does EEA compare to ETLA?
I was told that EEA was Adobe's offering to schools and like @Arthur had been told that ETLA was for Higher Education authorities or those with an extremley high number of FTE.
The only way we could make EEA work was if we had about 5 times the number of Staff to licence at which point the EEA agreement, with no iminent threat of the price being increased because nobody reacted badly to that price bracket, made perfect sense. The lower price bracket I've heard is still subject to a promotional discount to be removed at Adobe's discretion (and something they plan to do).
I might need to go back and look at ETLA if that is the case that any school can sign up....
I appreciate the rules around soliciting so I have checked with Chris Byers that we are able to post the following. It is from Matt Eccles at Adobe and hopefully clarifies the situation for you all.
Adobe has a number of framework agreements and licensing programmes for schools in the UK. It is always advised to speak to Adobe resellers or Adobe directly (firstname.lastname@example.org) for advice on which programme suits the schools requirements best. The SWGFL has an established framework for schools to join that provides them with access to a 2 year subscription for Creative Suite CS6. This is licensed against the schools FTE count but allows deployment to school owned or leased machines on the whole site. The agreement is managed by Phoenix and runs until Feb 2016.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the clarification Keith. Hopefully it's helpful to others as well. One point mentioned earlier was the likelihood of an impending price hike - any reassuring comment on that statement would be very helpful?
No problem at all and apologies for the delay - obviously in relation to pricing, I certainly cant predict the future (wish I could :-) ) - however Matt from Adobe has provided the following which hopefully provides some guidance:
"We can't give 100% guarantee but Adobe Education pricing has proven to be stable and competitive over time and programme changes are kept to a minimum for schools where possible. Subscription programmes form a core part of Adobe's goals as a company and, although there may be some changes in the future beyond our control, our expectation in the UK is that the average price point for school will remain static. "
Excellent - thanks Keith. Glad my school is in the SWGfL area so we can take advantage of this. I hope this proves useful to others on the Forum as well.
Since our school isn't in the SWGfL area, does this mean that unless we have a minimum of 500 FTEs, then ETLA is not a viable option for us? :confused:
Originally Posted by KeithMPhoenix
I would hope this agreement spreads to other grids too.
Obviously I can't advertise on here and I thank Chris for allowing me to comment on the agreement which I hope clarified some queries. Respecting the guidelines I cant provide full details however SWGFL will be able to provide further detail of who does and doesn't qualify.
Very good news folks. I am very reliably told that Phoneix can supply this agreement through SWGfL to other areas as well.
Originally Posted by fiza