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    Microsoft SyStem Centre entire suite EES

    HI all,

    I'm trying to find out if we can get the entire System Centre suite on the new EES, i have been told that its not out till some time in May, has any one else heard this? Or can point me in the right direction.

    Can any one also explain the CAL's we need to cover the entire SC suite?

    Thanks

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    From what I've been told, yes you can. I got pricing for it from Viglen. You need to purchase the server parts for some of them, but not others.

    Most CALs are included in the Enterprise CAL pack. (Except SCVMM client).
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    Microsoft Enterprise CAL Suite - available in the Enterprise Desktop Platform, Enterprise Desktop Platform with MDOP and customised desktop platform - initially provides rights equivalent to the following:

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    Microsoft Exchange Server 2010 Enterprise CAL
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    Microsoft Exchange Server 2010 Standard CAL
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    Microsoft Forefront Protection Suite subscription licence, which consists of the following Microsoft Online Services:
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    Microsoft Forefront Client Security subscription licence
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    Microsoft Forefront Online Protection for Exchange subscription licence
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    Microsoft Forefront Protection 2010 for Exchange Server subscription licence
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    Microsoft Forefront Security for Office Communications Server subscription licence
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    Microsoft Forefront Threat Management Gateway Web Protection Service subscription licence
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    Microsoft Forefront Protection 2010 for SharePoint subscription licence

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    Microsoft Forefront Unified Access Gateway 2010 CAL
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    Microsoft Office Communications Server 2007 R2 Enterprise Edition CAL
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    Microsoft Office Communications Server 2007 R2 Standard Edition CAL
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    Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010 Enterprise CAL
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    Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010 Standard CAL
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    Microsoft System Center Client Management Suite client management licence, which provides rights equivalent to the following
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    Microsoft System Center Operations Manager 2007 R2 client management licence
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    Microsoft System Center Data Protection Manager 2010 client management licence
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    Microsoft System Center Service Manager 2010 client management licence
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    Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager 2007 R2 client management licence
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    Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard CAL
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    Windows Server 2008 Rights Management Services CAL

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    So the enterprise CAL will cover the clients for use, is there a server end licence for the entire suite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob101 View Post
    So the enterprise CAL will cover the clients for use, is there a server end licence for the entire suite?
    Not a single one, no. You have to choose the ones you want.

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    Yes, there is, System Center Server Management Suite covers the server side:
    Comprehensive solution for end-to-end management of physical and low-density virtual server environments that includes the Enterprise Server management licenses for Operations Manager 2007 R2, Configuration Manager 2007 R2, Data Protection Manager 2010, Virtual Machine Manager 2008 R2; Service Manager 2010; the Management Server license for Virtual Machine Manager 2008 R2; the Management Server License for Data Protection Manager 2010; and, rights to manage Virtual Operating System Environments (VOSEs) plus the Physical Operating System Environment (POSE) provided the POSE is limited to supporting the virtualization capability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teejay View Post
    Yes, there is, System Center Server Management Suite covers the server side:
    Comprehensive solution for end-to-end management of physical and low-density virtual server environments that includes the Enterprise Server management licenses for Operations Manager 2007 R2, Configuration Manager 2007 R2, Data Protection Manager 2010, Virtual Machine Manager 2008 R2; Service Manager 2010; the Management Server license for Virtual Machine Manager 2008 R2; the Management Server License for Data Protection Manager 2010; and, rights to manage Virtual Operating System Environments (VOSEs) plus the Physical Operating System Environment (POSE) provided the POSE is limited to supporting the virtualization capability.
    Interesting, I was not told of this one!

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    If your managing servers you also need server ML licenses. Easiest way to get them (if you're running lots of VMs) is to get the System Center Management Suite Datacentre license. That's done per CPU, but gives you unlimited management licenses for the System Centre suite of products (SCCM, SCOM, DPM, SCVMM etc), gives you access to the MS Opalis automation tools and gives you the server licenses for SCVMM + DPM. List price is 2.5k USD per CPU, pricing under a schools agreement was around £20-30/CPU

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    Microsoft VDI Suites

    I'm looking into RDS and remote apps so stumbled across this on the RDS licensing page

    The two new VDI suites are:

    Microsoft Virtual Desktop Infrastructure Standard Suite (VDI Standard Suite)—Includes the core products and CALs required to enable and manage VDI, including:

    Remote Desktop Services (RDS)–The RDS component of the VDI Suite is licensed solely for use in a VDI context, it does not provide a license to use session-based RDS resources.

    Microsoft Desktop Optimization Pack (MDOP)–a collection of technologies that enable desktop virtualization and management, including App-V

    System Center Virtual Machine Manager (SCVMM) Client Management License –provides centralized management of the Microsoft® Hyper-V™ -based virtualization components of the VDI host

    System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) Standard Server Management License –provides centralized configuration management of the (physical) VDI hosts of the VDI Suite. Note: Virtualization hosts with mixed VDI and server virtualization workloads cannot be licensed through the VDI Suite.

    System Center Operations Manager (SCOM) Standard Server Management License –provides centralized monitoring and performance management of the physical VDI host of the VDI Suite. Note: Virtualization hosts with mixed VDI and server virtualization workloads cannot be licensed through the VDI Suite.

    Microsoft Virtual Desktop Infrastructure Premium Suite (VDI Premium Suite)—Includes all the components of the VDI Standard Suite, plus:

    App-V for RDS–provides application-level virtualization for RDS sessions.

    RDS–the RDS license is not use restricted to the VDI scenario only, but can also be used for session-based desktop and applications scenarios.

    VDI Suite licenses are only available to volume licensing customers. To simplify the purchase for customers, they match the licensing schema used by VECD, which follows a device-based subscription model.

    Important: The System Center management components of both VDI suites are licensed only for use in a VDI scenario. They are not licensed for use outside of a VDI environment. This means that the management of virtualization hosts with mixed server and desktop workloads cannot be licensed with the VDI Suites.
    Windows Server 2008 R2: Licensing Terminal Services

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfish View Post
    If your managing servers you also need server ML licenses. Easiest way to get them (if you're running lots of VMs) is to get the System Center Management Suite Datacentre license. That's done per CPU, but gives you unlimited management licenses for the System Centre suite of products (SCCM, SCOM, DPM, SCVMM etc), gives you access to the MS Opalis automation tools and gives you the server licenses for SCVMM + DPM. List price is 2.5k USD per CPU, pricing under a schools agreement was around £20-30/CPU
    Can you explain exactly what licenses would be required then, as there seem to be lots of options.

    If you choose the SMSD option - how many of these licenses do we need to do what? ie. do we just need to get 2 processor licenses for a single server? What about all the ML licenses, etc...?

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    For us we have a pool of 4 physical servers that host all of our VMs. Each of these is dual processor, so we have 8 x SMSD licenses together with the Enterprise CAL pack to cover all of our system centre needs. If you've got other physical servers that aren't running VMs its probably cheaper and less hassle to just get them a SMSD license (for each physical processor) as well. We then just purchase server licenses for SCCM, SCOM etc.

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    Going back to the original post, Microsoft are staggering the release of some CAL's. You will find that you can't buy Remote Desktop Services CAL's under EES yet. The release date for this is May 1st.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    Going back to the original post, Microsoft are staggering the release of some CAL's. You will find that you can't buy Remote Desktop Services CAL's under EES yet. The release date for this is May 1st.
    Strange, as I've got a quote for them here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Strange, as I've got a quote for them here...
    You're best checking this with Microsoft, quite a few suppliers are muddling up part codes for EES/Schools Agreement products, had that happen on about 50% of the quotes I got.

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    I'm glad I'm not the only one finding this difficult...

    We're looking at licensing 4 physical servers (1 "physical" DC and 3 servers for our virtualised instances), so we're planning to buy 2008r2 enterprise licenses outright.

    Along with that, we were looking at getting the Desktop EES licenses to cover us for Windows Upgrade and Office, but we'd like to allow Staff to access virtual desktops from home...what CALS would we need to cover that?!

    Would the Enterprise Desktop licenses give us access to all the Hyper-v management tools, deployment etc, along with the licenses to allow remote access via RDS?

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