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    XP licenses, volume and oem

    May be a silly question, but if I had a bunch of machines already had XP Pro OEM licenses, would I be able to reinstall Windows and make a system image using a volume licensing key, and still be covered by the OEM license?

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    Yes is what I believe to be the case

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    Yes that is allowed, got the MS paperwork somewhere about this, will dig it out if I can find it but you are definitely covered.

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    YOu MUST have an OEM licence in order to use VL
    This is because VL is an UPGRADE licence only...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    YOu MUST have an OEM licence in order to use VL
    This is because VL is an UPGRADE licence only...
    Although yes you do need a prior fully licensed version of XP that is not quite true, you can use a VL key with a Fully Packaged Product version of XP as well.

    Read this document
    Last edited by sparkeh; 23rd March 2010 at 09:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    Although yes you do need a prior fully licensed version of XP that is not quite true, you can use a VL key with a Fully Packaged Product version of XP.

    Read this document
    I stand corrected - though all the docs i got from MS licensing said otherwise!
    Oh well..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    I stand corrected - though all the docs i got from MS licensing said otherwise!
    Oh well..
    Ah...yes that is a very good point actually, I have found conflicting documentation from MS on various licensing issues. I try and keep the versions that fit in with what is best for us

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    Cheers all! That makes it a lot cheaper for us.

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    ok, how about making those Windows XP as a VM in WMware ESXi ? would that be still valid ?

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    I'm going to be abit contriversal here and say I think the answer to the OP's question is - NO.

    Or atleast it is No - If he hasn't bought the Volume License Upgrades for these machines, you are not supposed to use the VLK without purchesing the Volume Licenses. You can only purchase the Volume Licenses if you have a qualifying OEM/FPP license for the machine already and the Volume Licenses are not transferable between machines.

    As for the VM question - my understanding is -

    You need a qualifying OEM/FPP version of Windows + the Volume License Upgrade + Software Assurance + the VECD License.

    Microsoft want their pound of flesh

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    I'm going to be abit contriversal here and say I think the answer to the OP's question is - NO.

    Or atleast it is No - If he hasn't bought the Volume License Upgrades for these machines, you are not supposed to use the VLK without purchesing the Volume Licenses. You can only purchase the Volume Licenses if you have a qualifying OEM/FPP license for the machine already and the Volume Licenses are not transferable between machines.

    As for the VM question - my understanding is -

    You need a qualifying OEM/FPP version of Windows + the Volume License Upgrade + Software Assurance + the VECD License.

    Microsoft want their pound of flesh
    wow such a hard way just to virtualize the old PC hardware into a VM :-|
    Windows XP is no longer available to purchase even as a retail product so this is ging to be a bumpy road ahead.

    Thanks for the reply.

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    Purchase a load of Windows 98 FPP's off of ebay

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmcd35 View Post
    I'm going to be abit contriversal here and say I think the answer to the OP's question is - NO.

    Or atleast it is No - If he hasn't bought the Volume License Upgrades for these machines, you are not supposed to use the VLK without purchesing the Volume Licenses. You can only purchase the Volume Licenses if you have a qualifying OEM/FPP license for the machine already and the Volume Licenses are not transferable between machines.

    As for the VM question - my understanding is -

    You need a qualifying OEM/FPP version of Windows + the Volume License Upgrade + Software Assurance + the VECD License.

    Microsoft want their pound of flesh
    To run a Windows VM for VDI purposes you need either a device without a valid windows license and VECD. If you already have a windows license with SA then you can get VECD for SA (it's cheaper) instead to allow you to run in a VM.

    However as from July if you have a windows license with SA you'll no longer need VECD for SA - it's being included as a SA benefit. VECD is also being renamed to VDA

    VECD/VDA allows you to run windows VMs using Thin Client devices that don't have their own windows licenses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfish View Post
    To run a Windows VM for VDI purposes you need either a device without a valid windows license and VECD. If you already have a windows license with SA then you can get VECD for SA (it's cheaper) instead to allow you to run in a VM.

    However as from July if you have a windows license with SA you'll no longer need VECD for SA - it's being included as a SA benefit. VECD is also being renamed to VDA

    VECD/VDA allows you to run windows VMs using Thin Client devices that don't have their own windows licenses
    What a tangled web Microsoft weave. Is VECD not just the license to access the VM?

    I was under the impression the actual windows installation license for the VM on the server would be seperate. Thus by neccessaity probably a FPP copy, with VL Upgrade if you want to use a VLK and clone the vhd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfish View Post
    To run a Windows VM for VDI purposes you need either a device without a valid windows license and VECD. If you already have a windows license with SA then you can get VECD for SA (it's cheaper) instead to allow you to run in a VM.

    However as from July if you have a windows license with SA you'll no longer need VECD for SA - it's being included as a SA benefit. VECD is also being renamed to VDA

    VECD/VDA allows you to run windows VMs using Thin Client devices that don't have their own windows licenses
    @Soulfish: wow that sounds simpler and make sense.
    Today I spoke with my reseller to get the VECD/VDA license but then it seems they're not sure if the existing Windows 7 can be down graded into XP ?

    All i want to do is Virtualizing the old hardware (Windows XP only) not Windows 7 or migrating the license.

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