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    Yet Another EES FTE Question

    Say I have 97 FTEs.

    Of whom all could (should they wish to) ask for an user account and use a school-owned computer.

    80* use a school computer regularly (every day, or at least every week)
    3-4* use a school computer irregularly (once a month, say).
    The remaining 13 have never used a school computer, nor are they likely to (except possibly as an Adult Education student).

    How many qualifying FTEs have I got there according to Microsoft?



    *wild back-of-an-envelope estimates.

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    This question should be directed to your licensing provider as they will be able to give you the official answer.

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    84, if they don't use a computer you don't count them, but if they do use one sporadically then yes you count them.

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    I would also say 84

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    Do they have an account on AD? It's not a strict definition, but works neatly for me. TAs, yes. Caretaker, cleaners and kitchen staff no.

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    Microsoft's own information is clear enough.
    If they are employee's and will use it for 200 hours or more a year, you count them.
    Less than 200 hours and you can forget about them.

    I normally add an extra 2 to our count just to make sure, as the extra 66 is nothing in the grand scheme of things for a little extra piece of mind.

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    Id say 84 too plus I'd count the odd one using a PC for Adult Education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    Say I have 97 FTEs.

    Of whom all could (should they wish to) ask for an user account and use a school-owned computer.

    80* use a school computer regularly (every day, or at least every week)
    3-4* use a school computer irregularly (once a month, say).
    The remaining 13 have never used a school computer, nor are they likely to (except possibly as an Adult Education student).

    How many qualifying FTEs have I got there according to Microsoft?



    *wild back-of-an-envelope estimates.
    @pete Do you actually have 97 staff or do do you have, say, 115 staff which adds up to a FTE of 97?

    It is important.

    Every member of staff gets counted as an individual. The hours were per week is the hours they work and NOT the hours they use a computer.

    So if you have 97 staff all of whom work more than 200 hours per annum and all of whom have logins to use your network then your EES FTE is 97. It does not matter how much they actually use the computers while at work.

    If your 97 FTE is actually 115 including part timers and they all work more than 200 hours per annum with logins to use your network then your EES FTE is 115.

    You can discount people who don't have logins and those whose only access is using a till in the canteen. You can also discount those who work less than 200 hours per year, BUT that is roughly 6 hours per week term time only.

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    I've asked finance to pass on their working when they get a minute so I can compare it to non-supply* adults with a valid network account. Today's a bad day to bug them.

    *excluding long-term supply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boredguy View Post
    Microsoft's own information is clear enough.
    If they are employee's and will use it for 200 hours or more a year, you count them.
    Less than 200 hours and you can forget about them.

    I normally add an extra 2 to our count just to make sure, as the extra 66 is nothing in the grand scheme of things for a little extra piece of mind.
    Is this right or wrong?

    I thought it was they were employed for 200 or more hours per year then they should be counted. Not if they use a pc for 200 or more hours.

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    Maybe I shouldn't reply to posts in between playing GTA

    Taken from our ES-OV agreement definitions.
    "Faculy" means any employees, contractors, and volunteers who teach or perform research for Institution for more than 200 hours per annum.
    "Staff" means any non-Faculty employees, contractors and volunteers who perform work for Institution more than 200 hours per annum and use an Institution Qualified Desktop.

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    Well, and what about employees who are Mac users? We are a hybrid campus and roughly half my users never touch AD or any Microsoft software - at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karkau View Post
    Well, and what about employees who are Mac users? We are a hybrid campus and roughly half my users never touch AD or any Microsoft software - at all.
    If thry don't go anywhere near any Microsoft products to login or in the course of their work then you don't pay for them. Catering assistants who only use point of sale equipment that may contain Microsoft software don't count either.

    However, with big campus networks, the chances of many users being 100% immune from the microsft elements of a network are pretty slim. They may be mac users, but if the backbone is held together, even partly, by microsoft then they count.

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    I can see that; however, the absolute, only thing I can see them touching is DHCP, since one of our AD servers serves up DHCP. They use local authentication, direct connections via IP to printers, etc., etc.

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    Office for Mac is included in EES and Mac OS X is a qualifying OS for an 'upgrade'

    Are you sure you'll not want access to those?

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