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Licensing Questions Thread, Windows 8 laptop can't KMS activate with it's new Windows 7 OS (BIOS Windows Marker) in Technical; Originally Posted by Quackers We go the opposite way, the warrentys are not worth it. This is our consensus, out ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quackers View Post
    We go the opposite way, the warrentys are not worth it.
    This is our consensus, out of 60 laptops only 2 or 3 fail early (usually batterys) I'd rather I took the risk and had the spare funds at hand. If I were running a larger laptop store 200+ I'd go with the warrantys as man power would go up.


    (this isn't how I view my servers of course)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    Going forward it might not be viable to choose consumer laptops if you want to downgrade to Win 7, HP aren't supporting any consumer laptops on Win 7 now so drivers could be tricky to come by.
    arnt vista/7/8 the same drivers as they are basically the same kernel

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    Quote Originally Posted by sted View Post
    arnt vista/7/8 the same drivers as they are basically the same kernel
    But the point is (and taking HP as an example but I wouldn't be surprised if others followed suit) that your whizzy new Windows 8 HP consumer laptop might not have any drivers written for Windows 7 whereas my whizzy new Windows 8 HP business laptop will as they have (for the moment) committed to providing Windows 7 drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    But the point is (and taking HP as an example but I wouldn't be surprised if others followed suit) that your whizzy new Windows 8 HP consumer laptop might not have any drivers written for Windows 7 whereas my whizzy new Windows 8 HP business laptop will as they have (for the moment) committed to providing Windows 7 drivers.
    possibly but id lay odds the chipset/video drivers etc can all be got from intel/nvidia etc if not from hp direct or even just find a similar business hp and download its drivers

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    I would say it is not up to the hardware manufacturer what software I run and they should keep their grubby little fingers out of that pie. The whole thing reeks of collusion and kickbacks, personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sted View Post
    possibly but id lay odds the chipset/video drivers etc can all be got from intel/nvidia etc if not from hp direct or even just find a similar business hp and download its drivers
    Interestingly I have just setup a new Toshiba laptop which had the option of Win 7 or Win 8, looking through the drivers there were a few Toshiba specific drivers. If they decided not to have given Win 7 drivers for those then there could be problems trying to downgrade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    I would say it is not up to the hardware manufacturer what software I run and they should keep their grubby little fingers out of that pie. The whole thing reeks of collusion and kickbacks, personally.
    No its not up to them what hardware you run, but it is up to them what drivers they wish to write/provide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    No its not up to them what hardware you run, but it is up to them what drivers they wish to write/provide.
    Of course, but if I choose to deal with that problem then I should be allowed to; blocking my KMS activation is ridiculous.

    Plus, as @sted says, they should be pretty much the same anyway, I doubt there would be significant challenges.

    Windows & Office are just feeling more and more locked down to me these days, like I'm only being allowed to use my machine in the way that MS predicted I might want to use it. Really might have to take the plunge and investigate Linux again one of these days, been a decade since the last time I looked

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