I still don't get why anyone pays 1000's for antivirus, when there are perfectly good free clients available! Managed anti virus is such a con.
Only one I know of is Panda. I've used it in a school as a stopgap but especially in secondaries I don't believe it's worth risking unmanaged AV. How would you know you've had an infection somewhere, out of several hundred workstations? The first warning you might get from your management point relating to the first infected station a) could save your entire network b) gives you a starting place and a likely source of infection c) due to point b gives you someone to educate or something to fix d) centrally watch your entire network's protection.
Otherwise, let's take a typical modern infection. It gets onto a single PC in a room you rarely go to. It disables the AV protection so no warnings come up for the user. By the time the next user has called to say they're getting a lot of strange popups or you remote in to find 25 copies of Babylon Toolbar on the machine, it's already spread to anything it can connect to. Within half an hour you've got half a school to re-image and a lot of downtime to explain to SLT. The machines can be locked down to high-heaven but when it hijacks a system process no locking down will have any effect on it. I don't even agree with the idea of some management companies who provide free AV as part of their MIS deals (yes, Capita - at least in Northants anyway, you get McAfee for any station with SIMS on including server - entirely unmanaged)
Tell me that's not worth a managed package? And again with EES you're 95% of the way to a full license for SCCM and it's management properties.
Even if you don't - thousands on a package? £1.50 per station typically. OK it adds up for a lot of stations but again it shows you can get value for money from EES. In the majority of cases it really isn't worth the risk. I've seen what damage a simple virus can do to a school and I've been personally responsible for a cleanup solution used across this county. It's not worth it.
As for licensing in general it's always worth doing *all* the math. Your school might not be in a financial position to go for a subscription based licensing scheme but there's lots you can do to keep costs down. If you've only 50 stations and they've recently been bought so are up to date, perhaps "open" office solutions (I say that as I wouldn't really recommend OpenOffice) and free/already provided email solutions could save a couple of grand. Even so, "all the math" includes the time and cost of the people running it all.
Last edited by synaesthesia; 16th October 2012 at 07:58 PM.
A couple of the posts in this thread have suggested prices for the Standard edition of £30 to £90, nowhere near £170...
I originally asked for a quote from another provider but they told me that I need to buy these Server licenses from the provider of our existing EES agreement. How do these prices compare to quotes that people here have received? I'd like to go back and ask why the price is so high but thought I'd check on here first.
That really doesn't look like EES pricing! Last quote I got was about £30 for standard and £170 for Datacenter. I also asked for a Academic Select Quote and got £100 Standard and £530 Data Center. They look suspiciously like standard select agreement licences that commercial customers might pay. And so does the descriptions.
I got "OVS-ES Windows Server Standard" (£30) or "Windows Server Standard 2012 Single Licence 2 Processor - Academic - Volume License" (£100)
With servers, you just specify the number of server licenses you need - like you did with the Schools Agreement. You include what you will be installing Windows Server on. If you already have licenses for servers, you don't need to get licenses for them as far as I know!