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    BBC News - "MPs call for better porn filters to protect children"

    BBC News - MPs call for better porn filters to protect children

    Sounds like a lot of Dads are about to be very upset as they realise they have no good reason to give their wife why they shouldn't sign up to the ISP porn block to protect little Jimmy.

    So long as it's an entirely optional, opt-in system, I'm all for better provision of home filtering - it's bloody difficult to do at the moment, so many of the free tools are not up to the task and become a nightmare to admin, and I'm not paying for one just to find out it's rubbish, like so many paid AV programs. Really the only option I'd be happy to pay for will be when Smoothwall start offering a home product

    So long as the government doesn't think that filtering replaces education, of course - and there's always a very real danger of them "doing something, anything" so they can absolve themselves of responsibility.

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    Sorry, the title of this thread made me giggle in the New Posts menu

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    Won't someone please think of the children!?!

    Yes... let's get the PARENTS to do this...

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    I'm against my ISP controlling any kind of filter on my connection - I pay them to provide me a connection to the Internet, nothing more. What happens when a site you want to go on inexplicably gets classed as a porn site? Or the ISP decides to go "improve their service" by filtering other sites they class as immoral or illegal?

    In theory, it's a great idea to have someone protect our kids from the evils of the Internet, but I fear that in practice we'll just end up giving away yet more of our freedom under the guise of a "good thing".

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    Its the bloody students that find all the sites, where do they think all our material comes from

    Only joking boss...
    Last edited by silver_uk; 18th April 2012 at 01:55 PM.

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    I use the Windows Parental Controls on my kids accounts and it works very well thank you very much. The last thing I want/need is a centrally filtered connection. It'd be like having your home internet connection filtered by an over-cautious RBC, and we know how useful some of those connections are. Imagine trying to get something unblocked!

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    I for one take responsibility for what my children do on my network, and believe it is the responsibility of any network provider to do the same where children have access to the internet. ISPs [some] provide parental controls which are at most moderately adequate, but really how many people actually use the controls provided? Perhaps the government ought to concentrate on what we can do to improve awareness of just how much explicit content is out there and how to control it, rather than just providing report after report detailing inadequacies..... (That's all they ever seem to do).
    So Mr government types, shut up complaining and pointing out what's wrong, and do something about it!!
    Like perhaps sack this year's foreign aid budget and bring about an awareness campaign and regulation on the standard of parental controls an ISP should provide......

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    What happens when a site you want to go on inexplicably gets classed as a porn site?
    what like orange (at least used to) on my old mobile decide edugeek was an adult only site

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box View Post
    I use the Windows Parental Controls on my kids accounts and it works very well thank you very much. The last thing I want/need is a centrally filtered connection. It'd be like having your home internet connection filtered by an over-cautious RBC, and we know how useful some of those connections are. Imagine trying to get something unblocked!
    Exactly! The Windows Parental Controls are great IMO and they're free. Set my daughter up on a highly restricted account (she's 8) and although initially I had to allow multiple pages a day for her, she now rarely has to ask as all her usual sites are allowed. Plus she can send me a remote request by email so I can allow sites when she isn't there, and you can preview sites before allowing them (only with the admin password of course) - excellent bit of software that gets overlooked all too often.

    Quote Originally Posted by DT2 View Post
    I for one take responsibility for what my children do on my network, and believe it is the responsibility of any network provider to do the same where children have access to the internet. ISPs [some] provide parental controls which are at most moderately adequate, but really how many people actually use the controls provided? Perhaps the government ought to concentrate on what we can do to improve awareness of just how much explicit content is out there and how to control it, rather than just providing report after report detailing inadequacies..... (That's all they ever seem to do).
    So Mr government types, shut up complaining and pointing out what's wrong, and do something about it!!
    Like perhaps sack this year's foreign aid budget and bring about an awareness campaign and regulation on the standard of parental controls an ISP should provide......
    I agree with you that there should be an awareness campaign, but I think putting filtering in to the hands of the ISPs is asking for trouble. Instead they should either be promoting existing solutions (such as the Windows controls that the majority will by now have access to) or if they're really concerned, developing their own, multi platform tool. Although of course they'd probably give some well-known-company-beginning-with-the-letter-C about 6 billion to develop it before running out of money and handing over an unfinished, buggy product with no prospects for future updates
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    Quote Originally Posted by sted View Post
    what like orange (at least used to) on my old mobile decide edugeek was an adult only site
    exactly like that, T-Mobile too (when they joined with Orange) and it took me weeks to get them to remove the filter from my account, despite me never asking for it and clearly being over 18 anyway as it was a contract phone.

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    Another sneaky backdoor way of getting China-style restrictions on our Internet. Classic tactics... use kids as a scare tactic and who would disagree with making the Internet "safer"

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    I agree with you that there should be an awareness campaign, but I think putting filtering in to the hands of the ISPs is asking for trouble. Instead they should either be promoting existing solutions (such as the Windows controls that the majority will by now have access to) or if they're really concerned, developing their own, multi platform tool. Although of course they'd probably give some well-known-company-beginning-with-the-letter-C about 6 billion to develop it before running out of money and handing over an unfinished, buggy product with no prospects for future updates
    Not putting the filtering into their hands, but making sure the cr4p they supply is up to the job.... I use windows parental controls, and its great for free - but my kids are young and only really go on a few sites. I guess once they're older and need more access I'll look at something else.... And knowing the government, you're probably right on the money..... I might well opt for a home smoothwall

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    Whats wrong with monitoring what your kids are doing on the Internet?

    also technologies are already there for parents they just need to be better publicised (OpenDNS, K9 Web Protection etc.)
    Last edited by JJonas; 18th April 2012 at 02:17 PM.

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    is it just me are are there worse things on the net than porn anyway?

    id rather have kids watch porn than say beheadings etc (granted im not a parent)

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    O2 currently do filtering on all internet traffic which is sent over there 3g networks - we had to test honestly thats why I know as a student was accused of showing dodgy videos offline to his friends!

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