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    Quote Originally Posted by Davit2005 View Post
    how will it work unless you have a blanket ban for everyone unless better control can be obtained at the user end.
    The current system is fine.

    If it's good enough for their precious offspring while they're in school, it's good enough for their use at home.


    I think I may have to have a word with our head/ICT Co-ord to get something made up and sent out to advise parents about filtering...


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    One article I read about this was saying that isp's such as virgin and google need to be responsible........

    Oh dear.

    Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    One article I read about this was saying that isp's such as virgin and google need to be responsible........

    Oh dear.

    Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    One article I read about this was saying that isp's such as virgin and google need to be responsible........

    Oh dear.

    Ben
    Most of the 'conservative' papers have quotes from various people saying that the government isn't willing to listen as companies like Google and Facebook have their ear, and its not in their interests to introduce a filter.

    All it has done for me is prove once again that politicians and 'pressure groups' have no idea how technology works. It reminds me of this scene in IT Crowd... The IT Crowd - Jen Brings the Internet to the Shareholders meeting - WIDESCREEN - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    All it has done for me is prove once again that politicians and 'pressure groups' have no idea how technology works. It reminds me of this scene in IT Crowd... The IT Crowd - Jen Brings the Internet to the Shareholders meeting - WIDESCREEN - YouTube
    Off-topic, but what the hay.

    I wonder how many people I could trick with that...

    Make an "internet" box, disable everyone's internet access... Tell them I'm going maintenance on the internet...


    If anything, it'd be a good test of whether someone should be in charge of teaching children...

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    All it has done for me is prove once again that politicians and 'pressure groups' have no idea how technology works. It reminds me of this scene in IT Crowd... The IT Crowd - Jen Brings the Internet to the Shareholders meeting - WIDESCREEN - YouTube
    I loved that scene

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    The current system is fine.

    If it's good enough for their precious offspring while they're in school, it's good enough for their use at home.


    I think I may have to have a word with our head/ICT Co-ord to get something made up and sent out to advise parents about filtering...


    Le EDIT: [censored] Friday night and I'm thinking about work... Damn you, Edugeek.
    While in school they SHOULD be plenty protected.

    There should be blanket bans on certain types of illegal web content whatever, wherever, whoever you are within UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davit2005 View Post
    While in school they SHOULD be plenty protected.

    There should be blanket bans on certain types of illegal web content whatever, wherever, whoever you are within UK.
    Who determines if the content is illegal or not? Surely that's for a judge to decide, not for some pen pusher in an office somewhere? That's one of the points here - what you see as 'illegal' could be seen as 'art' by others. Determinations of legality should be the realm of the courts, not politicians.

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    Not talking anything like censorship of web content. With mobile devices access to Internet maybe the software/hardware manufacturers could make it easier.

    Anyone know some decent guidance sites for none technicals to see what is available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    The current system is fine.

    If it's good enough for their precious offspring while they're in school, it's good enough for their use at home.


    I think I may have to have a word with our head/ICT Co-ord to get something made up and sent out to advise parents about filtering...


    Le EDIT: [censored] Friday night and I'm thinking about work... Damn you, Edugeek.
    Remember to use this: EduGeek.net - A (Quick) Guide to Windows Parental Controls
    As I've said (many times) on previous occasions, all of the modern OS's offer free parental controls - and Microsoft's is a corker! - so there really is no need for this kind of legislation, only education.

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    Cameron is going to weigh in on the issue now: BBC News - Consultation on child internet porn measures

    This is my favourite line
    Conservative backbencher Claire Perry has accused internet companies of being "complicit" in exposing children to pornography and "dragging their feet" on the issue.
    I mean, the TalkTalk home page is literally plastered with SluttyCollegeGirls adverts, it's terrible how they're complicit in promoting the pornography industry. Maybe it's about time we stamped down on newsagents for selling jazz mags, or the Royal Mail for carrying smutty postcards that perpetuate a male-dominant sexualised culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    Cameron is going to weigh in on the issue now: BBC News - Consultation on child internet porn measures

    This is my favourite line

    I mean, the TalkTalk home page is literally plastered with SluttyCollegeGirls adverts, it's terrible how they're complicit in promoting the pornography industry. Maybe it's about time we stamped down on newsagents for selling jazz mags, or the Royal Mail for carrying smutty postcards that perpetuate a male-dominant sexualised culture.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    I'm against my ISP controlling any kind of filter on my connection - I pay them to provide me a connection to the Internet, nothing more. What happens when a site you want to go on inexplicably gets classed as a porn site? Or the ISP decides to go "improve their service" by filtering other sites they class as immoral or illegal?

    In theory, it's a great idea to have someone protect our kids from the evils of the Internet, but I fear that in practice we'll just end up giving away yet more of our freedom under the guise of a "good thing".
    I completely agree with this, it's all very nice saying let let the ISP filter out your internet, however good it may be to protect children from the dangers of the internet, thats the parents job and we in no way should be apply pressure to the ISP's to start filtering our traffic, because before too long your end up in a state like China is and a few other contries where the ISP are filtering anything that they or the goverment deem to not be suitable. This debate is bigger than just the "Porn" side of things, with Virgin saying they will filter out the Pirate bay after a high court junction it's jus tleading us down the path the a complete Nanny state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdell View Post
    Virgin saying they will filter out the Pirate bay after a high court junction it's jus tleading us down the path the a complete Nanny state.
    Actually, they not saying they'll do it.

    They HAVE done it. And their hand was forced.

    They refused to originally, saying they wouldn't block it until they got a court order. The court order was granted so now they have no choice.

    They CAN appeal it, but until it's revoked the block stands.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    Cameron is going to weigh in on the issue now: BBC News - Consultation on child internet porn measures

    This is my favourite line

    I mean, the TalkTalk home page is literally plastered with SluttyCollegeGirls adverts, it's terrible how they're complicit in promoting the pornography industry. Maybe it's about time we stamped down on newsagents for selling jazz mags, or the Royal Mail for carrying smutty postcards that perpetuate a male-dominant sexualised culture.
    What I don't understand is how this issue becomes a national issue which the PM has to then wade in on, and arrange consultations? It just seems to be a minority of people shouting loudly getting lots of airtime when those people who actually look at it logically are ignored or demonised as being complicit or worse.

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