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    I'm still waiting for the "Great firewall of China" comparison...

    "Goverment blocks pornography, then what? They block anything that they feel is bad for their image?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    I'm still waiting for the "Great firewall of China" comparison...

    "Goverment blocks pornography, then what? They block anything that they feel is bad for their image?"
    They'll block for 'security reasons' surely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    I'm still waiting for the "Great firewall of China" comparison...

    "Goverment blocks pornography, then what? They block anything that they feel is bad for their image?"
    This is exactly the same argument that was brought up when the government introduced the whole 'blocking child porn'/'cleanfeed' system. People agree 100% that child pornography is a detestable thing, but the fear then, as it is now, is that its a stepping stone to filtering other stuff that the government of the day decides is bad for whatever reason.

    ie. Slippery slope argument.

    And for once, the people who made that argument back then are being proven correct in their fears by the use of that system as an example of a working filtering system so 'why can't it be extended to do this job too?'...
    Last edited by localzuk; 26th April 2012 at 09:43 AM. Reason: EDIT: Slipper slope sounds like a fun game, but alas a typo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    They'll block for 'security reasons' surely.
    Anti-terrorism.

    The same reason councils use for spying on tennants rubbish...


    I've said it many times, but I'll say it again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JJonas View Post
    I saw that yesterday, the guy in the other studio is correct it will have to be weak and it will give parents a false sense of security.
    I think the false sense of security is the most cogent argument I've seen against it yet, in all honesty. Regardless of your other thoughts for or against filtering in general or this filter specifically, that is the most believable downside to any such system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    I think the false sense of security is the most cogent argument I've seen against it yet, in all honesty. Regardless of your other thoughts for or against filtering in general or this filter specifically, that is the most believable downside to any such system.
    ^ Pretty much this.


    I wonder if there's a report on whether more obscure fetishes are serched for if filtering is in place...

    [Sometimes I have strange theories... and what?]

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    This is exactly the same argument that was brought up when the government introduced the whole 'blocking child porn'/'cleanfeed' system. People agree 100% that child pornography is a detestable thing, but the fear then, as it is now, is that its a stepping stone to filtering other stuff that the government of the day decides is bad for whatever reason.

    ie. Slippery slope argument.

    And for once, the people who made that argument back then are being proven correct in their fears by the use of that system as an example of a working filtering system so 'why can't it be extended to do this job too?'...
    Already happened, cleanfeed blocks copyright violations now

    In June 2011 the Motion Picture Association began court proceedings in an attempt to force BT to use Cleanfeed to block access to NewzBin2, a site indexing downloads of copyrighted content.[4] BT was ordered to block access to the site in late July[1] and in a later clarification, BT was given two weeks to implement the block starting at the end of October.[5]
    granted that's from Wikipedia though Cleanfeed (content blocking system) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    See, this is the sort of thing that makes me not to trust the government or out courts. The courts use of Cleanfeed there is a blatant violation of the law as it was written, as it was intended purely for use for child pornography and reference back to hansard should have cleared that up!

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    See, this is all pointless.. If this takes off, there'll just be an explosion of naugty magazines and DVD's. They'll just use other mediums. I say just educate your kids about porn (and other net-naughties). Young boys especially will seek out porn for some jollies. I'm not under the impression girls won't, either. Also, who decides? Do I get to watch straight, mission pr0ns but not kinky bondage? Where do you draw the line? Women in bikinis and underwear models? Allowed or not?

    If you want to restrict content, do it to your own device. Don't rely on the ISP to do it for you.. Stupid lazy parents.. grumble grumble.

    Also, great firewall of china, rawr censorship, etc.

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    Blimey....The Daily Fail still going on about it : Jamie is 13 and hasn't even kissed a girl. But he's now on the Sex Offender Register after online porn warped his mind... | Mail Online

    I honestly thought they would have moved on to something else now....house prices/immigration/cancer or all 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmj View Post
    Blimey....The Daily Fail still going on about it : Jamie is 13 and hasn't even kissed a girl. But he's now on the Sex Offender Register after online porn warped his mind... | Mail Online

    I honestly thought they would have moved on to something else now....house prices/immigration/cancer or all 3.
    The Daily Mail launched their own crusade/campaign to push for filtering last week, so I'd expect to see this in the paper and on their site every day.

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    Aha....that explains it then.

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    you could try using Forticlient Lite. This comes with free content filtering with anti virus. If can also be password protected so your children can't just turn it off.

    Just google "forticlient lite"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmj View Post
    Aha....that explains it then.
    Another article today saying Labour support the campaign now too...

    Someone has highlighted something key - would this process not be an interference into private/family lives by the state, and therefore potentially fall foul of the (much derided) Human Rights Act?

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    Unless you can check the absolute identity/age/suitability of who is logged into the machine that is accessing the web page at that time, how will it work unless you have a blanket ban for everyone unless better control can be obtained at the user end.

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