This was my point, entirely! Thank you for re-enforcing it!Not only that, but bikes generally have a better view of the road ahead due to positioning - as we have more road to play with it is much easier seeing around a (left-hand) corner by by moving to the right hand side of the road and vice versa. From behind a car, if I sit about a metre or so to the right of the car drive, I can see hazards infront of that car that a car driver wouldn't be able to see.
By the way....my previous couple of posts WERE meant to be taken a slightly tongue-in-cheek, for those that didn't realise!
I'd knock bikers off in my car if they acted like this on the roadI think the contrast between these 2 statements need highlighting.doesn't give you the right to treat the road like you own it
I'd love to know how when riding within the limits of the conditions and of your self and keeping with in traffic laws you are being a danger & putting others lives at risk. This generally only happens when someone else does something stupid (which most bikers take into consideration), isn't following the laws or riding the conditions themselves, or some petty individual decides that someone shouldn't progress more than they can, even if it wouldn't inconvenience them or cause them any grief. Examples are not leaving a good enough gap between cars, either while travelling or while stop in a jam, phone use, shifting over to block a bike coming through or speeding up to try and stop a bike moving in.
From a bike point of view (this will cause fury, rage and a lot of discussion but bear with it) this is a distance is a safe gap to move into sensibly, allowing the car that has just been overtaken to slow down slightly without breaking hard or causing issues. The bike will more than likely only be there a short while when it will move on. If this gap is too small as some eejit is tailgating or just being an arse firstly the biker would probably think twice but it means is they do slot into that gap the car behind WILL have to brake.
Lol ... inevitable really
Ok.....so shall we see, this time, if we can take longer than another 13 pages to go full circle???
Who's up for that?
Rules are : You can't repeat yourself, but must try to get back to original post!!!
Can you take bollards on the wrong side?Rules are : You can't repeat yourself, but must try to get back to original post!!!
I feel I must take this as an opportunity to applaud the multitasking skills of young ladies who can both drive and text message at the same time.....
As long as there is nothing happening ahead to cause the traffic to stop (which comes back to the issue of bikes being higher up so have a better view of the road) then there is no reason not to come into that gap, which is why I also said a biker should do it safely. Otherwise what would people on multiple carriage ways move into when needing to get over to the left?No, this isn't a safe gap - it is the stopping gap for the car!! That gap is not there for bikes to decide to slip into when its convenient for them.
You also have to bear in mind drivers are meant to give way to traffic from the right, so as to stop people closing up trapping them out in other lanes. Add to that drivers should be aware of what is going on around them so a bike should never surprise them, they'll have seen it coming up and be prepared to act safely.
I would say it all comes down to whether people see travelling by road is a battle, to beat everyone else on the road, be first and give up no ground or as a means of transport to get somewhere with as few issues as possible.
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