"Failing to make appropriate progress" is a fail on the test. Why should it be different AFTER you've passed?
FWIW, I was not referring to busy town roads with lots of parked cars, but a rural A road which has only recently been progressively restricted form 60to in some places 30. The road hasn't changed at all; it was good for 60 five years ago, now there are people cluttering it up at <30. I suspect that there are councillors living on it that like the quiet.
Doing 20% less that the speed limit is considered a risk (it is not considered dangerous, only that it is a possible cause for other drivers taking risks which could result in dangerous situations) but only in areas where driving can be expected to be at consistent speeds. On more single carriageway roads which are national speed limit it is a variable limit depending on the type of vehicle you are driving. It is reasonable to expect to be behind vehicles which may be driving far slower that 20% below the limit. Those drivers who are at the extreme end (agricultural vehicles, slow moving vehicles, etc) are expected to take regular action to allow the flow of traffic to resume, but this is not that case of goods vehicles which are speed limited or who have a lower speed limit to the maximum on that road.
There is never an excuse to rant about someone going 45mph on a national speed limit road. If you say that it means that it takes you far longer to get somewhere than it should do then you have not planned your journey properly as you *know* that some vehicles are limited to 40mph on the road and you could be behind them all the way.
The whole idea of a speed being safe or not is purely down to they way people are taught to drive to the limit instead of accepting the limit is what you should do to get the little extra to overtake if needed.
There is also the category of driver who enjoy the journey ... the destination is unimportant. Life is not a race track ...
I think a contestant on HIGNFY said a Michael Winner quote: "Do you know it only cost £60 and you can drive in a bus lane all day!"
What is determined as bad/careless driving? Is it black and white?
If someone does a dangerous overtake because the car in front was moving too slowly for them, then the fault is 100% with the person doing the overtake.
I find this slightly worrying as you could well end up with police officers choosing to stretch the limits of "bad driving" in order to get their quotas up for the day in the same way they do with hidden speed cameras just after the limit changes etc.
If it means the idiots who tailgate because I refuse to break the 70mph limit get fined it might not be such a bad thing though...
This is a strange thing really ... folk moan that police don't target problem spots ... and then when they do folk comment that they are only ever doing the 'bad roads' ... damned if they do, damned if they don't.
It is also worth looking at the application of this for all aspects of careless driving (which it is likely to include). There is already clear laws and rulings on the use of mobile devices whilst driving, but don't forget that if you are not in full control of your vehicle due to things like unscrewing the top off a bottle of coke, unwrapping and eating a sandwich, fiddling with the radio, etc ... then you will also be dealt with. The key thing to remember is that this is if you are not in full control of your car. If you are then it is unlikely that you will be stopped.
We as humans make mistakes, I just worry that an honest mistake could gain you 3 points and a fine.
Honest mistakes are something you learn from. The proposed plan is to deal harsher with repeat offenders as well as to allow police to use opportunities to get people who make 'honest mistakes' onto educational courses. Police Officers will still be expected to apply discretion and there should be safeguards in place to stop it from becoming part of a target culture.
Remember that an honest mistake can still get someone killed.
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