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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Switching genders or races for existing characters might be jarring to long term readers but its a good thing to level the market out and make it more interesting overall!
    It's also lazy writing and has been done and undone so many times it doesn't mean anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    No.

    And why can't these people make their own damn characters instead of changing existing ones for the purposes of "inclusion"?
    the same reason ever film/tv program appears to be a remake its cheap you have a guranteed audience and its cheap

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    found this on Twitter

    thor.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJonas View Post
    found this on Twitter

    thor.jpg
    I'm rolling my eyes super hard.


    Most of the responses to that are pointing out that he's missed the point.

    It's nothing to do with "I hate women superheroes!" it's about rewriting an established character for no damn reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    I'm rolling my eyes super hard.


    Most of the responses to that are pointing out that he's missed the point.

    It's nothing to do with "I hate women superheroes!" it's about rewriting an established character for no damn reason.
    What she said !! ^^

    It's like changing James Bond into Janet Bond... the female spy who drinks her Vodka Martini stirred not shaken. It would be ridiculous, lazy and just down right awful.

    Where as a new original movie about a kickass female spy (or if say Black Widow got her own movie...mmmmm Scarlet)...well that would be awesome.

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    OMG @X-13 @MrMat called you a she GO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMat View Post
    It's like changing James Bond into Janet Bond... the female spy who drinks her Vodka Martini stirred not shaken.
    To be fair, some people theorise that "James Bond" is a pseudonym tied to "007".

    So there could be a "Jane Bond" if a female agent draws "007".

    Quote Originally Posted by abillybob View Post
    OMG @X-13 @MrMat called you a she GO!
    I'll allow it.

    Fits with the theme of the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    I'll allow it.

    Fits with the theme of the thread.
    You know what everyday that goes by I get more and more disappointed with you *shakes head in shame*

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMat View Post
    What she said !! ^^
    Quote Originally Posted by abillybob View Post
    OMG @X-13 @MrMat called you a she GO!
    I'm not entirely sure @X-13 has ever been expressively clear about his/her/its their sex. And gender's a whole different kettle of fish and we're not opening that can of worms again D:

    Never really been a massive comic book fan, personally. I like superheroes.. Ish? I have a passive interest in them, I suppose. But this is just bizarre.
    I don't mind female super heroes (one of the reasons I'm actually a huge X-Men fan.. but still passively) and admittedly they could make this work if they did it properly..

    If you can only wield Thor's hammer if you're deemed worthy, then all the current Thor (for the purposes of this thread, He-Thor) has to do is something to make him unworthy. The traditional 'Hero's spectacular fall from grace'. Or, if that would be too out-of-character, just have him die. Conjure up a plausible way for the Hammer to be delivered to the new Thor (She-Thor) and you're golden..

    However it does diminish the idea of Thor as a superhero from the 'chosen one' who is able to wield the hammer, to just another title passed down to whoever has it at the time. If He-Thor dies and She-Thor takes over, picking up the title, then it doesn't render everything He-Thor has done irrelevant, but still alters it just enough that it's.. Not the same.

    Would've been better writing a new superhero, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    TBH, that doesn't bother me that much.

    "Captain America" is [literally?] a job title.


    And, you know, it's not rewriting a religious figure. [Yup, Thor is a religious figure. and if gender-swapping is OK, the prophet Muhammad is now a woman.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    the prophet Muhammad is now a woman.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
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    Image filtered here.

    From the URL I'm guessing it's the Thriller Michael Jackson gif?

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    I am all for equality and such - see multiple rants in the feminism thread - but all this is rubbish. They're doing it for publicity, of course, but in terms of the actual comics it a) makes no sense because Thor isn't a title, it's a name, what do we call real Thor now then? Is he going to get a Prince-style squiggle? b) it's all meaningless because it'll only last a year or two at most before reverting to normal. Obvious example: The Death of Captain America, except he wasn't killed, he phased in and out of space/time and reappeared at various points in his lifeline and eventually reappeared in the present... or something.

    I don't even think it's all that powerful a message about equality. If it's sending any message, it's that a woman can't be powerful on her own terms, with her own identity; she can only become powerful by emulating a man and stepping into his role. Except with boob armour. Yay equality.

    Black Cap sounds interesting, although if we're talking black superheroes, it's Netflix's Luke Cage series I'm looking forward to, personally

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    If it's sending any message, it's that a woman can't be powerful on her own terms, with her own identity; she can only become powerful by emulating a man and stepping into his role.
    It's also unnecessary because Squirrel girl. Who defeated Thanos with the power of Squirrels. [Verified by Uatu the Watcher]



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