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    The other thing about it all is that if my son had a school dinner, that would then mean that in the evening the rest of the family were having a dinner whilst he would be having a tea because he's already had a meal that day. It would separate my family.

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    At risk of going off topic -

    "Ban packed lunches because they're not healthy enough"

    on the same day as

    "We're not going to put fags in plain packaging because our mates in the fag industry are worried about their profits. They only kill half their customers after all".

    I'll leave it there for now.

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    Leon Restaurants - Vision

    "We are fans of naturally low-GI foods so we make our brownies with dark Valrhona chocolate and instead of flour we use ground almonds and instead of ordinary sugar we use fruit sugar.

    We believe you can have your cake and eat it"
    So do I, but I use the 'carrot' and not 'the stick'. Teach children to cook in schools, then the next generation will be knowledgeable about food and nutrition and will send their children to school with healthy packed lunches. Keep it off the curriculum and the ignorance will continue. Banning do not educate.
    Last edited by creese; 12th July 2013 at 09:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    BBQ time!

    To be honest I wouldn't let my kid have hot dinners, I have seen how much is actually spent on them!
    Responsible parents will send their children with healthier packed lunches than the school will provide so why penalise them?
    /Rant

    The honest truth is that some "responsible" parents would give their child the most unhealthy packed lunches. My mum was the head cook in a local primary, the one where all the Doctors and local politicos sent their children. Those kids on packed lunches tended to have the worst diets - Chocolate, Fizzy Drinks etc. A parent told my mother, "Son X is fussy about what he eats. He loves monster munch crisps so we give him two packs for lunch, some biscuits and a bottle of pop". Oh the irony!

    I'm a da now and I want my daughter to know how important a healthy diet is. By all means she can have some chocolate/fizzy pop if she wants but she'll have it in moderation - i.e. not every day! I don't believe in the "You must not eat sweet/fizzy things" mantra. From my point of view its all about balance. Throw in the mix some exercise and I don't see the problem it all will pretty much balance out.

    When I was in primary school (a long time ago) we had a set daily menu - a main meal and a pudding. There has been an obsession in trying to offer lots of variety every day and make the experience like a restaurant where you can choose what you want. It doesn't work! Children will choose what they like, not necessarily what is good for them. The waste of food in my mothers school as frightening but she was told she had to keep offering the variety, even though it was never being eaten.

    There's a lot to be said for going back to a set weekly menu (I recall we had a monthly cycle of different meals), for one it would be more cost effective in terms of the buying and making of the food. Economies of scale in buying food still exist even though LAs pretend that you can buy 1 bag of potatoes at the same price per unit as 10. Waste food0 would also be reduced, saving money.

    Our LA decided that schools catering had to make a profit. They've decided to make this profit by reducing ingredient quality and time to do the work. The effect of this is that more children are moving to packed lunches as it offers a perceived better diet and more variety. Schools catering should be run as not for profit "business". All it need to do is provide the pupils and staff a good, wholesome meal that meets sensible nutritional standards.

    AS a result of the packed lunch scenario, the Government now feels that they have to tell schools to ban packed lunches. If they showed some balls and told LAs to make schools catering not for profit and set some minimum standards we wouldn't be in this position of being told what to do by a increasingly Orwellian nanny state!

    /Rant
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    Quote Originally Posted by creese View Post
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    "We are fans of naturally low-GI foods so we make our brownies with dark Valrhona chocolate and instead of flour we use ground almonds and instead of ordinary sugar we use fruit sugar.
    How exactly is this better? If they're talking about fructose vs sucrose, doesn't the former have more of a negative health impact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FishCustard View Post
    How exactly is this better? If they're talking about fructose vs sucrose, doesn't the former have more of a negative health impact?
    I always thought the major issue with sugar was "Refined" Sugar..?
    Unless this is what they mean by "Ordinary" sugar

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    Quote Originally Posted by FishCustard View Post
    How exactly is this better? If they're talking about fructose vs sucrose, doesn't the former have more of a negative health impact?
    Personally I believe it is the amount of sugar, especially in some fizzy drinks, not so much the type. I am experimenting with Stevia currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonk View Post
    The honest truth is that some "responsible" parents would give their child the most unhealthy packed lunches. My mum was the head cook in a local primary, the one where all the Doctors and local politicos sent their children. Those kids on packed lunches tended to have the worst diets - Chocolate, Fizzy Drinks etc. A doctor told my mother, "Son X is fussy about what he eats. He loves monster munch crisps so we give him two packs for lunch, some biscuits and a bottle of pop". Oh the irony!
    If they are doing that then they are not responsible parents. Their career is irrelevant.

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    Michael Gove facing the heat over Marrakech villa holiday with Leon chef he asked to improve school meals | Mail Online

    The two men discussed over poolside cocktails how to improve school meals for children and, shortly after the vacation, Mr Gove asked the chef to investigate the issue, the Independent on Sunday reported.

    Now we know what it's all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jawloms View Post
    The other thing about it all is that if my son had a school dinner, that would then mean that in the evening the rest of the family were having a dinner whilst he would be having a tea because he's already had a meal that day. It would separate my family.
    Why? If the only choice of school dinner is a huge portion of pizza and chips fair enough but if its a sensible sized decent cooked meal why cant you have another cooked meal at dinner?

    I always eat 2 cooked meals a day in term time granted i am a 29 year old man...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    If they are doing that then they are not responsible parents. Their career is irrelevant.
    That was my point, they're not being responsible parents. I take your point on the career comment, I've changed the post accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidewinder View Post
    a huge portion of pizza and chips
    Mmmm.... Pizza!!


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    Clearly a lot of your schools are serving rubbish for food by the sounds of it or maybe you expect the turkey twizzlers still and not shepherds pie, lasagne, fish and chips etc... ?

    The school I worked at had brilliant lunches and break-time snacks were good, nice proper cooked meals for lunch and yes the break snacks were that freshly baked pizza (wholemeal base etc..) paninis, sandwiches, salad boxes etc... but lunches were sandwiches, pasta boxes etc.. and three cooked options including vegetarian options and it was really good food, nutritious and very good and highly recommended.

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