aw it's down now (can't access the site)
Seems her website has now been hacked! I won;t post a screenie due to swears, but still quite amusing.
aw it's down now (can't access the site)
check her twitter feed....
I lived next door to a nice couple when I was growing up who had a child called Calum. He was a horrible little so-and-so. The parents were lovely and the father often spent time with his son and I regularly heard him correct Calum in various matters of basic etiquette but nevertheless this little boy was obnoxious, rude, spiteful and deceitful. I very much doubt it had anything to do with his name and is probably more likely that he was somewhere higher up on some behavioural spectrum somewhere. But when I was teaching I ran into another Calum who was very similar in behaviour. I also ran into a Connor who was cheeky and rude and, funnily enough, best friends with a kid called Tyler who was very bright but wilfully arrogant and deliberately difficult.
For what its worth, I don't believe for a second that something as trivial as a few syllables and letters can define a personality, but there seems to be correlations all over the place between various types of behaviour and names. I am inclined to think this is regional - so in one area the 'troublemakers' might be called 'Jack', in another 'Liam'. Perhaps this is more about demographics than the name itself. Let us assume, for arguments sake that the name ABCD is really popular in, say, Wales. This means that proportionally MORE children in Wales will be called ABCD than in, say, Scotland, where the name WXYZ is more popular. This inevitably means that a greater proportion of children, who may be troublemakers because of parental attitudes, undiagnosed learning difficulties etc etc etc will be called ABCD in Wales or WXYZ in Scotland, which leads to a REGIONAL observation that the name ABCD or WXYZ belongs to 'troublemakers', which in turn feeds its decline as a popular name in that area. However in Scotland, ABCD is less popular, so less children are called it, so it is not or rarely associated with 'difficult' children. So someone from Wales might say 'Oh, all the ABCDs I've encountered have been real troublemakers' and someone in Scotland might say 'That's RUBBISH, I've never met an ABCD who is anything but kind and sweet and polite - no, you need to look out for the WXYZs - they're the problem!'
THAT is the point I was trying to make - so @witch, clearly regionally the name 'Jack' is very very popular (along with variants like Jackson) around here, which means that proportionally the number of kids called Jack is higher, so the likelihood of 'Jack' being a troublemaker is higher. I don't think names define personality, I think it is the other way around - the popularity of a name and the personalities of people called by that name define the 'reputation'. Perhaps that is why companies with well known names are proud of their 'Name' being synonymous with their values - because the reputation assigned to a name is important.
I also think that kids with difficult or complicated names suffer as a result and it can affect them into adulthood - even my name is very traditional and I HATE it. I HATE being called 'Alex' and I hate that people assume automatically that I'm male by virtue of being referred to as 'Alex'. It has plagued me my entire life. When I speak to someone on the phone I have to specify that my name ends with DRA not DER as I've lost count of the number of letters I've received addressed to Ms Alexander Lightfoot. ARGH It makes my blood boil. I've grown up having to defend my name and get people to spell it or pronounce it right so I am very very very short tempered with anyone who botches it. It isn't their fault but when you can't even go through a single day without someone messing up your name it becomes very grating and has an effect on you as a person.
I HATE it when people from companies phone me (the bank, the electric company, the council etc) and assume they can call me 'Alex' or 'Alexander'. A typical conversation goes something like this:
Them: "Is that Alexander Lightfoot?"
Me: "No, it's AlexanDRA Lightfoot. Who is this please?"
Them: "It's Clare from Orange. Can I call you Alexander?"
Me: "No, you may not. You may refer to me as Miss Lightfoot until you can learn the difference between the Masculine AlexanDER and the feminine AlexanDRA. Or you can fetch me a manager."
Them: "Okay Miss Lightfoot, I'm calling about XYZ."
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I don't WANT to be rude but this happens almost every single time with everything and I lost patience YEARS ago.
Is it obvious that I'm bitter about my name at all? LOL
I can see what you were getting at now, but that sort of bald statement is just the sort of thing that fuels prejudice. That woman was probably trying to make a similar point but it is the shorthand statement that is the problem
(BTW, I have friends with children named both Josh and Liam and know many others who are not troublesome at all.)
*I asked a friend who has your name and she said she rarely has any issues with the male/female thing. It is quite a common name round here though.
As for difficult name - my son is proud of his odd name and enjoyed being the only one in the whole school. It did tend to mean that people remembered him though
Last edited by witch; 8th July 2013 at 09:52 AM.
I'm not going to get all uppity about it, my general outlook on life is that if people want to be so shallow as to cast judgement on a group of people based on something so trivial as a name then I don't want to associate with those people so why should I care what they think? What I will say is that quite often the double barrelled surname comes from the fact that the child's main parent has remarried and finds themselves in the awkward situation of
a) not wanting to upset the other parent by changing the child's surname
b) doesn't want the child to feel disconnected from the family because they have a different surname
this was the situation that resulted in me having a double barrelled surname and which resulted in more than my fair share of arguments with snooty teachers who refused to call me by anything but my mother & step-dad's surname. Perhaps I'd have fit right in to your box of troublesome Joshs, or perhaps it was those teachers at fault for refusing to recognise my actual name because of some personal belief they had no right to impose on me. It's all perspective.
This thread has prompted me to push people to call me Lexa - it is a perfectly legitimate shortening of ALEXAndra.
Still get called Bill but mainly Billiam now.
I still answer to any variant of the names.
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In this day and age of more ambiguous or unisex names it surprises me how many people still assume gender based on a name - It is impossible to tell gender from 'Alex' yet people still do. 'Alexis' is much more feminine but I can't get people to use more than 2 syllables. Chad seems to be more American in origin and I've only ever seen it used in men. What would it be short for in a woman? (If shortened at all).
LOL just found this:
EXCLUSIVE: Katie Hopkins: 'Obese people look lazy and are unemployable' | The Sun |Showbiz|TV
This woman is a piece of work. She is down the extreme end of the spectrum. I also don't think she fully understands how and why certain names in certain areas are more popular than others. She doesn't seem to understand demographic skews either...
I love Philip Schofield - he has a look of consternation throughout the whole interview and points out how wrong she is about things without sounding like he's arguing with her. He's a great presenter.
Last edited by AMLightfoot; 8th July 2013 at 10:35 AM.
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