Latest Lancashire Police training aide has been leaked already:
BBC News - Police use Taser on blind man after stick mistaken for sword
That is just insane.
Good job the police don't carry guns, otherwise people who fail to stop/hear could end up dead... oh wait there...
Great - now I know what my costume is going to be on Saturday October 20th for the march in London.....
What about deaf people that use the internationally recognised gesture for deafness that get thrown in jail for using 'foul hand gestures' and accused of being drunk and disorderly? Oh... wait....
Tasing an innocent person is disgusting! I've lost count of the number of stories I've seen in the news of people killed by taser... The officer should be dismissed from his post and forced to submit a public apology admitting culpability (and stupidity!).
Last edited by AMLightfoot; 17th October 2012 at 03:18 PM.
I don't get it. Last I checked, swords were about an inch wide. Not a skinny white stick...
I thought the police were only allowed to use reasonable force? In which case, surely the officer in question should be arrested and charged himself. I don't see how shocking a 60+ year old man who hasn't even acknowledged you (no doubt because he had no reason to believe the police were after him!) let alone resisted arrest is reasonable force.
No doubt "lessons will be learned"...
My dark sense of humour made me spit my tea all over my twin screens hearing this. Im off to hell in a handbasket...
Happened in the 70's when I lived in Texas. Now of course, back then, Tasers hadn't been invented. The cops relied on lead slugs.
He was also told to stop by the police officer and if they are armed they have to announce that fact, but ignored it, he is probably not blind more partially sighted, we know how the press like to beef up a story.
Using a taser is supposed to be used in place of lethal force - that is what they were introduced saying.
A man walking down a pavement with a white stick sloping to the pavement? Not showing any aggression, no-one in immediate danger etc... Not someone who should be tased.
Last edited by localzuk; 17th October 2012 at 04:42 PM.
It's not often I play Devil's Advocate, but here goes....
"Since Tasers were introduced in 2004 three people – including Hulmes and Burns – have died after their deployment. Amnesty International believes Tasers are a legitimate option for highly trained police officers in very limited situations." - Taken from here - Taser-related deaths raise concerns over 'non-lethal' police options | World news | The Guardian
That is from August 2011, and suggests that deaths aren't as common as you would like to think. Agreed that in the US figures seem to be in their hundreds, but we wouldn't read about them so much in Blighty!
The sensationalism behind what you posted was unusual, and I had come to expect a more rounded view of things from you.
I believe a public apology from the policeman is necessary, but the pilloring of him, and others, is not really acceptable when they are trying to do their job.
I presume those amongst us who have never made a mistake would now like to come forward with their arguments???
"Since 2001, more than 500 people have died following Taser stuns according to Amnesty International, which said in February that stricter guidelines for Taser use were "imperative." But in only a few dozen cases, medical examiners have ruled that the Taser contributed to the death. In some cases, other factors, such as drug use and prior medical conditions, also played roles." - Heart study finds Tasers may cause deaths
Thing is, 8 deaths as a direct result. Many hundreds from indirect causes (ie. the taser causing other things to get worse or existing conditons etc...).
As I said above, Taser's were introduced as a direct replacement for lethal force weapons (ie. guns). So, the requirements for their discharge should be the same as with using guns.
If I make a mistake, I won't kill someone. If they do, they can. That man has already had strokes, this sort of shock can cause another.
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