Looking for a new system
Having been conned a little, we've cancelled a renewal for our Web filtering and Email filtering software and are now looking for alternatives. So far I've been tasked with looking at Smoothwall and a Sothos UTM for web filtering. No idea in terms of email filtering.
Really, what does everyone else use? We have simple needs! BYOD, transparent proxying, AD integration and a boat load of features?
I assume your budget won't stretch to a Palo Alto?
Thanks Oaktech, I'll take a look at those.
Not sure on budget. The renewal we binned was £20k for 3 years support. If we can get something that'll replace our now very aged firewall, even better.
That kind of budget is very much in Palo Alto territory... Speak to Exclusive Networks about Palo.
For comparison, speak to Schools broadband about your Fortigate options as these will probably do all you need as well.
I wouldn't recommend Sophos, would go for Smoothwall out the two, but look at Watchguard and their offerings.
Cheers guys. Dropped a few emails and calls out and am talking to Smoothwall tomorrow. I know a lot of you use Smoothwall so.. Thoughts? Easy to use? Good bit of kit?
I see there was a comment from Schools Broadband regarding Fortinet.
I wanted to let you know that in addition they can provide web filtering, MDM and a VLE.
They just recently won Best Business use of Cloud:
Schools Broadband wins Best Business Use of Cloud at the 2014 ISPA Awards | Motor E magazine
We're using exa & smoothwall both work well
Thanks Rob, we do our best :)
Originally Posted by rob_coles
I've used Smoothwall at my old place and have Palo Alto in my new place and absolutely miss Smoothwall. If I could get my own way I'd be straight back on Smoothwall
Thanks everyone for the replies and the messages!
I've been demo'd some kit already and am looking to contact a few more people from the Firewall/web filter point of view. I have to say, I'm impressed with Smoothwall at the moment, but by no means fixated on it.
Finding it hard to find a good Email Filter though. Not sure how good SmoothWall's is. Had a quote from EPA (Fusemail now) and they seem a little on the steep side. Anyone have any ideas?
Firstly - Hello everyone, this is my first post but i've been a regular reader of the forums.
I'm posting to ask why there is such a degree of approval regarding Smoothwall? I've just moved into a new school and immediately got shot of the device and replaced it with a SOPHOS UTM for the firewall and Lightspeed for web filtering and email filtering. Our pupils and staff saw the change in the responsiveness of the internet immediately. I simply couldn't stand the reporting features of the Smoothwall - it took ages to produce a report and the reports were so limited compared to the Lightspeed device.
I'm not saying that the Smoothwall is a bad solution, but in the 6 months of trying to get my head around it, i just couldn't see anything positive about it. When i arrived we saw that we had a massive VPN problem (near 80% of our pupils were using VPN's to get around the filtering provided by Smoothwall now all gone with SOPHOS and Lightspeed), Skype connectivity was hit and miss (we are a boarding school) and this was noted in the inspection report as well. And Smoothwall support couldn't offer any solutions.
As mentioned, i had 6 months with Smoothwall and was expecting good things from it, but in the end i was sorely disappointed.
So i ask as an honest question, what does it do which makes it so recommended here at Edugeek?
Mostly because it does the job that it says on the tin better than any other other product. The biggest recommendation has to be that the kids hate it for all the right reasons... they can only use the internet for the purposes that the school intends. If you had such huge performance issues with it, it would suggest that there was a setup issue.
Indeed, it's one of the most highly regarded products on the web. The two biggest players IMO currently are smoothwall and lightspeed.
For the email, do you have any licensing agreements in place with Microsoft? If so, how about using their EOP (Exchange Online Protection). You don't need to be running Exchange to make use of it, and if you're running EES you likely won't have to pay a thing.