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    We just recently changed our content filtering setup. Both teachers and students were using the same proxy, but we split them early last year. Teachers now have access to everything except for sites that match malicious and pornography lists on the filter, where students are still locked down with no access to personal pages, social media, and youtube.

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    imo there is no educational need for Facebook.

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    That only circumstances in which staff members are allowed to access fb is to investigate incidents of cyberbulling. We have a standalone laptop and 3g dongle solely for this purpose.

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    It's blocked here and that won't be changing any time soon. Absolutely no need for it whatsoever. As mentioned above we have one member of staff with a 3G unfiltered connection which we have used in the past on site to investigate (mainly staff) misuse of Facebook, Twitter etc.

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    Same as Duke5A - staff are permitted access to Facebook, just like they have access to a million other non-educational sites (the only sites we block are those on the IWF blacklist). If they are misusing this access and going on Facebook during lessons, then that is a matter for their Head of Department, just like if they were using any other recreational web site or reading the paper instead of teaching.

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    I will likely get shot down for this, but I think some people are coming at this debate from the wrong end - rather than ask "should we permit Facebook?", instead ask "should we block it?". Unless you want to start giving staff white-listed access to SLT-approved educational sites only, why block Facebook but leave all the other recreational sites open? Trust people's professionalism to not misuse what you give them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enjay View Post
    I will likely get shot down for this, but I think some people are coming at this debate from the wrong end - rather than ask "should we permit Facebook?", instead ask "should we block it?". Unless you want to start giving staff white-listed access to SLT-approved educational sites only, why block Facebook but leave all the other recreational sites open? Trust people's professionalism to not misuse what you give them.
    Agreed. We initially had facebook open for staff, a few years back. We noticed our top domain hit in lessons was 1) bbc 2) facebook 3)google.
    Quite a large proportion of staff were using facebook in lessons. We raised with SLT and they told us to block it. We now open facebook for Heads of Year to deal with bullying issues that arrise from social networking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    Quite a large proportion of staff were using facebook in lessons.
    Do you know this was whilst they were with a class, and not during a non-contact lesson?

    Let's assume for a moment that it was while they were teaching - has blocking it made them exemplary teachers, or have you just limited their choice of recreational sites by one, and they're now spending time on different sites instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enjay View Post
    Do you know this was whilst they were with a class, and not during a non-contact lesson?

    Let's assume for a moment that it was while they were teaching - has blocking it made them exemplary teachers, or have you just limited their choice of recreational sites by one, and they're now spending time on different sites instead?
    they're not being paid to go on recreational sites and fb wasnt being used for teaching and learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    they're not being paid to go on recreational sites and fb wasnt being used for teaching and learning.
    If your teachers' contracts state that they work from 8:30am to 4pm, then you have a point. How much are they getting paid at 10pm when they're marking books at home?

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    No access for fb here, but a lot use their phones anyway.

    Funny story, that on weds during the strikes half the teachers that were in had all gone to the pub at 1pm. The staff on strike were not happy at all, and found out via facebook!

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    All this "can can be fired for what you say on facebook" stuff makes me want to slap people.

    If I was out with friends would I be fired for saying "my boss is an idiot"? No, I wouldn't. So, why should facebook be any different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by browolf View Post
    That only circumstances in which staff members are allowed to access fb is to investigate incidents of cyberbulling. We have a standalone laptop and 3g dongle solely for this purpose.
    Same policy here - only a couple of people have unfiltered access to the internet for this purpose. There's no educational need for Facebook in a school as far as I can see.

    Staff and pupils all have the same level of filtering - there's no need to do it differently, it opens up too many potential problems IMO to have separate filtering options. What happens when a pupil uses a staff laptop? It happens all the time. What happens when the teacher accidentally brings up something inappropriate projected onto the board in their room? There's been several examples of this discussed on here in the last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enjay View Post
    If your teachers' contracts state that they work from 8:30am to 4pm, then you have a point. How much are they getting paid at 10pm when they're marking books at home?
    thats out of choice, they're not contracted to mark at home

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    What happens when the teacher accidentally brings up something inappropriate projected onto the board in their room?
    This happened at another school I worked at. It was equal parts mortifying and hilarious.


    With different levels of filtering you're also running the risk of teachers planning to use websites that are only blocked for students.

    Then having to listen to them demand that they're unblocked.



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