Internet Related/Filtering/Firewall Thread, Recommendations for Firewall / Web Filtering in Technical; All,
The school has recently change ISP's and our old ISP has taken back their Cisco PIX 515e Firewall. I ...
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30th April 2011, 10:40 AM #1 Recommendations for Firewall / Web Filtering
All,
The school has recently change ISP's and our old ISP has taken back their Cisco PIX 515e Firewall. I have a temporary solution in place but would like a rack mounted appliance.
The schools current web filter is a Barracuda device, but it's now developed a habit of freezing which I think is down to its age.
So in short I'm looking for a device(s) that will do the above.
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30th April 2011, 10:43 AM #2 Look at a Smoothwall UTM - they are great
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Thanks to jamesreedersmith from:
tom_newton (30th April 2011)
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30th April 2011, 10:49 AM #3 We have sonicwall which is quite decent but if you can stump the extra cash get a smoothwall
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Thanks to irsprint84 from:
tom_newton (30th April 2011)
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30th April 2011, 10:50 AM #4 Forefront TMG here - works a treat (you do need your own 2k8R2 server to run it on though) and educational price is fantastic.
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30th April 2011, 10:56 AM #5 I'm just looking for open source firewalls and was recommended to look at smoothwall express, Endian and Ipcop. But the first two will only allow you to have multiple ip's on the single nic
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30th April 2011, 11:01 AM #6
already have the smoothwall guys coming to see me, but thanks.
Last edited by Geek_of_HeathMount; 30th April 2011 at 11:04 AM.
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30th April 2011, 11:13 AM #7 I'm running smoothwall express, but was told by smoothwall support that it only supports a single ip. I will have a closer look at Endian
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30th April 2011, 03:48 PM #8 Another vote for Smoothwall UTMs, they are very much worth it
Love ours and they are that good our entire county is getting them to replace the former centralised systems with a new de-centralised system with the UTMs being the heart of this system in each school
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Thanks to john from:
tom_newton (30th April 2011)
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30th April 2011, 04:28 PM #9 We've just ordered Smoothwall too. So far the demo looks good and Rob at Smoothwall has been excellent. Looking forward to getting it up and running.
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Thanks to jcollings from:
tom_newton (30th April 2011)
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30th April 2011, 04:31 PM #10 
Originally Posted by
jcollings
We've just ordered Smoothwall too. So far the demo looks good and Rob at Smoothwall has been excellent. Looking forward to getting it up and running.
Another local user
You won't regret your choice, if you fancy a trip to my place to see it in action with the kids hammering through it always welcome to visit.
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30th April 2011, 09:23 PM #11 Smoothwall - rubbish
Nah all seriousness, we've been a happy Smoothwall company for around 3 years or so now.
Good support, and yes theres initial outlay first for the hardware if your looking at the UTM. But annual costs soon come down - all based on the number of devices that are on your network, if it's quite a small network costs should be pretty reasonable. Our LA have been looking at a county wide solution, but it looks like they choose Bloxx and not the smoothwall option.
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30th April 2011, 10:51 PM #12 
Originally Posted by
Sylv3r
Smoothwall - rubbish

Nah all seriousness, we've been a happy Smoothwall company for around 3 years or so now.
Good support, and yes theres initial outlay first for the hardware if your looking at the UTM. But annual costs soon come down - all based on the number of devices that are on your network, if it's quite a small network costs should be pretty reasonable. Our LA have been looking at a county wide solution, but it looks like they choose Bloxx and not the smoothwall option.
Really how ironic I'm sure @tom_newton agrees with me on that one as he knows what I'm on about lol All I can say is they have made a very wrong choice
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1st May 2011, 08:42 AM #13 you could build your own, maybe with an ubuntu machine with squid and Dansguardian or something like Zentyal or IPCOp which has firewall capabilities and they all have HTTP Proxy Filtering and Throttling. Or you could go to eBay and find a cheap PIX515E, I got an old 505 off of there years back and I sold it and it's now being used on a council network.
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1st May 2011, 12:50 PM #14 We're still looking at this ourselves, and so far we've got PaloAlto, Smoothwall and Watchguard in our shortlist. All cost around the same too, except for Watchguard which is a bit cheaper.
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1st May 2011, 01:43 PM #15 
Originally Posted by
glennda
But the first two will only allow you to have multiple ip's on the single nic
ZeroShell is free and will do load balancing and failover of multiple connections for you. I've used it in the past to do the load balancing / failover bit and then used Smoothwall to do the actual filtering. This is handy to know both from a technical point of view (if you actually need a load balancing / failover solution) and a price-negotiation point of view ("We don't need to pay £extra for the added load balancing / failover feature of Smoothwall, we can provide our own." "Drat. Call it £50?" "Okay then.").
The same goes for the YouTube-URL-approval feature which several people were selling at BETT this year (Bloxx in particular, I think), that's quite easy to sort out yourself with a separate Squid-based filter.
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