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    Hey,
    We're looking at Google Mail but wondering how you've implemented LDAP authentication? We're using CC3 / 2003.
    Cheers,
    Jon

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    There are stacks of single sign on services to LDAP/AD.
    Google Apps - Google Code

    We use this for single sign on authentication: moodle-google - Project Hosting on Google Code as it uses our learning platform

    The LDAP sync tool will synchronise other (non-password, for AD) info
    Google Apps Directory Sync - Google Apps Help

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    Thanks CyberNerd.
    We've asked a few Google Partners about LDAP, that we want passwords to be synced, and they were talking of using:

    http://code.google.com/p/sha1hexfltr/

    Anyone else use this?

    If we were to use SSO, and one day the SSO server goes down, that means Gmail/Moodle/etc wouldn't be accessible, right?

    The Moodle-Google looks cool. Does it create a new account when users first login? Or how?

    Cheers,
    Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonspurs View Post

    If we were to use SSO, and one day the SSO server goes down, that means Gmail/Moodle/etc wouldn't be accessible, right?

    The Moodle-Google looks cool. Does it create a new account when users first login? Or how?

    Cheers,
    Jon

    Yes - the SSO server would be a single point of failure (as would an exchange server). Of course you can work around this with redundancy.
    For us the Moodle-Google is just a Single Sign on Mechanism, with a link to 'email' in the moodle page. I think there is an option to create google accounts, but we don't use that. We use a scheduled Active Directory sync to create accounts/groups etc.

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    Sorry, the SSO server is the Moodle server right? So when your users want to get to their email, they go to your moodle server, eg moodle.yourschool.com, log in, and get to Gmail from there. And if you go directly to Gmail, eg, gmail.yourschool.com, users will be redirected to the moodle server right? Just thinking we'd need to upgrade our moodle server if we're going to have users all hitting the moodle server just for email...

    Cheers,
    Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonspurs View Post
    Sorry, the SSO server is the Moodle server right? So when your users want to get to their email, they go to your moodle server, eg moodle.yourschool.com, log in, and get to Gmail from there. And if you go directly to Gmail, eg, gmail.yourschool.com, users will be redirected to the moodle server right? Just thinking we'd need to upgrade our moodle server if we're going to have users all hitting the moodle server just for email...

    Cheers,
    Jon
    yep. That pretty much sums it up.
    The load on moodle is negligible for just serving one page and an auth - you may not need to upgrade it.

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    Im not looking at Google Apps, just the Spam and AV module Postini - Is anyone using this in anger? What are the Pro's and Cons please?

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    Did not really check out Goole Apps very much but implemented Live@edu (MS solution). We're just using it for email not the sky drive or office online.

    The spam filtering is ok but were are getting more spam than we used to especially from Nigeria!! There is spam filtering tools with Live@edu that we have had good to limited success with. Overall for a free email system it suits are need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJon View Post
    Im not looking at Google Apps, just the Spam and AV module Postini - Is anyone using this in anger? What are the Pro's and Cons please?
    Yes. The postini service is fantastic and very flexible. We use it for both content filtering and spam filtering.
    The only drawback I would say is that it's another external service and the initial setup is a bit complex. Fine once you get your head around it though.

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    Good news - have you setup the TLS etc - shame it does just run via the SMTP username?

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    Thanks CyberNerd.
    I've looked up mirroring / redundancy for Moodle and it doesn't seem easy...what have you got set up?

    What if an update to the Moodle code / update to Moodle-google code breaks your email?

    I'm just trying to go through worst-case scenarios...

    Cheers,
    Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonspurs View Post
    Thanks CyberNerd.
    I've looked up mirroring / redundancy for Moodle and it doesn't seem easy...what have you got set up?

    What if an update to the Moodle code / update to Moodle-google code breaks your email?

    I'm just trying to go through worst-case scenarios...

    Cheers,
    Jon
    We don't have any redundancy on our moodle server. But it wound't be too difficult to do - rsync the web data on a regular basis and host the database on one server, then use round robin DNS to load balance.
    if an update to moodle broke anything I'd know because I do have a test virtual machine for moodle, so I'd try it there first.



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