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    @ezzauk - if we could improve performance though (the AV we are looking at outpaces Clam significantly, and the new filtering engine uses less RAM and CPU) would you consider it?

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    Yes if there was less/no performance issues i would run the AV.

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    On a similar subject I was reading the other day that Kaspersky have patented hardware anti-virus

    I suppose at the rate viruses are being created a hardware type solution will be required, but then again processors these days can handle more than most people realise.

    To be honest however a good free alternative is to run in limited rights mode as much as possible and this will stop pretty much all viruses, malware and spyware in their tracks.

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    Not convinced by most "dedicated hardware". The "thing you are doing" needs to be either really unsuited to regular CPUs or really really common.
    Take Graphics - not that suitable for a normal CPU, and there are LOADS of gamers, 3d folk etc want fast gfx. Perfect for going "off cpu".

    OTOH, most AV applications are local and small scale, and regular CPUs are "not bad" at AV stuff. These folks Sensory Networks: Solutions for High-Performance Network Security used to do a hardware Clam-accelerator among other things. Now its all software libraries. Dedicated ASICs cost too much.

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    Another vote for Sonicwall here (NSA 5000) can't fault it as it does catch some that get through the LA anti-virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael View Post
    On a similar subject I was reading the other day that Kaspersky have patented hardware anti-virus

    I suppose at the rate viruses are being created a hardware type solution will be required, but then again processors these days can handle more than most people realise.

    To be honest however a good free alternative is to run in limited rights mode as much as possible and this will stop pretty much all viruses, malware and spyware in their tracks.


    Hardware AV, what a load of rubbish how can you patent that. I'm pretty sure it will be a device running an 'minimal' OS with an AV app, hmmmm that sounds familiar to me (a small PC anyone?) just the hardware is specialised.

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    I think the patent is because there's a physical device between the data cable and the hard disk itself (that's how I understood it). I'm by no means an expert in AV technology, but clearly Kaspersky are going to do something with it.
    Patents can cost a small fortune if a lot of research is required to determine whether a patent is valid.

    To be fair most hardware devices have a basic OS of some kind, but there will still need to be a database of information (software) which is updated regularly. I can imagine this sort of technology may interest businesses but I just couldn't imagine the likes of PC World selling it to customers.

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    Hmm i suppose it could be build into the mobo at some point but then that might raise the competition flag.

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    Between mobo and hd? Eep. How do you report virii? What about false positives?
    Interesting. Got a linky?

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    Interesting but of little use to servers which are generally left on, this device only helps if the machine is rebooted and does not take into account a compromise of the RAM which is the more likely host for an active low level virus/rootkit which targets the kernel in memory. The box could still be bluepilled and shunted down a ring on the CPU giving the rootkit full control untill the system is rebooted.

    The HD is also not the only persistant storage device, you can plant code in DVD drive firmware, probably NIC firmware and the BIOS.

    I guess that this could be another useful tool against viruses but it still relies on the OS for updates even if via a defended channel. It all depends on the cost and usefuless of the final product in the end though as to how far it goes.

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    Quick cheeky ping of my poll, now it's not half term any more

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    We use the Sophos WS1000 which protects against Virus/Malware/Spyware.

    -ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by wagnerk View Post
    We use the Sophos WS1000 which protects against Virus/Malware/Spyware.

    -ken
    Ken,
    Do you find it effective? Do you often check reports etc. or is it a "set and forget" function as far as you are concerned?

    Tom

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    I use SmoothWall, but as the hardware is a bit dated, don't dare turn on Clam (which I know is a bit of a hog). I'd like to know what SmoothWall are planning for the replacement, and if it's going to slam my hardware!

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