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    YouTube Coming To Your School Soon

    An interesting article here regarding the use of YouTube in schools Schools to spend thousands to access YouTube

    Yes YouTube has its academic merits but surely there has to be a cheaper alternative, considering this proposed solution is going to costing between £2,500 and £10,000 a year per school

    Details of the BLOXX solution can be found more.

    Have had a quick read through the brochure and unless I have missed something it does seem to do much automated content filtering, looks like it relies on content being submitted by teachers for approval before it can be viewed.

    Interesting to hear what others here think and to see how many schools and authorities are looking at this solution.

    We use BLOXX as our web filter have just emailed them to see if our LEA has approached them regarding the unit and to see if I can have one to trial

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    Wont this just be the same as teachertube which is free. Why pay all that money.

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    why not host your own you-tube in house..

    ClipShare : Video Script - Youtube Clone - Youtube Script (pay for) Easy and fast to set-up.. Don't cost much if you go for the basic package.
    (Embed videos from other sites) link to youtube

    PHPmotion :: Free Video Sharing Script - Free Youtube Clone - Free Youtube Script - free video sharing software - you tube clone - media sharing script - PHP Script - social networking scrript (free) takes a a bit to set up and tweaking needed.

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    We allow Teachers access to youtube but not students.

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    @mjs_mjs:

    Well surely that's just the same as letting the students have access is it not? hehe!!

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    Sounds a bit like a puff, semi advertising, piece.

    One thing I was thinking, could CSS sheets be applied at proxy? If it was, surely a sheet could be styled that removed all the cruft & leave just the video. Admittedly the content would still be there in the source but generally the problem would be hidden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bossman View Post
    @mjs_mjs:

    Well surely that's just the same as letting the students have access is it not? hehe!!
    Yes and no, yes they have access to it as a managed learning resource (managed by the teacher), but they don't have access to it from their own user accounts for them to abuse and waste learning time on.

    Quote Originally Posted by TechMonkey View Post
    Sounds a bit like a puff, semi advertising, piece.

    One thing I was thinking, could CSS sheets be applied at proxy? If it was, surely a sheet could be styled that removed all the cruft & leave just the video. Admittedly the content would still be there in the source but generally the problem would be hidden.
    Yes it is possible to do that. Using a mix of DNS and apache you could redirect all requestes to a site where the CSS is overlaid. One of the torrent sites i used to use did something simalar.

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    As the article stated, it does seem a very expensive solution to provide 'safer' access to resources on just one website.

    Why doesn't YouTube create an educated orientated sister website? If not free to schools, then for a small fee (has to be cheaper than £2000 to £10000 per annum as mentioned in article).

    They could even call it EduTube, EduYouTube or even EducateYouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pottsey View Post
    Wont this just be the same as teachertube which is free. Why pay all that money.
    Agreed.

    I've told stafff about TT, but as it doesn't have loads of other content for them to play with they don't seem to be interested .

    Instead of spending thousands on this sort of solution, why can't staff just set up the clip at full screen then display it on the board? Too much effort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pottsey View Post
    Wont this just be the same as teachertube which is free. Why pay all that money.
    Problem with teachertube is that it's not YouTube, not my words just what I have been told by numerous members of staff here when I have suggested it as an alternative.

    Have also tried to host our own YouTube in house but it never worked think it was too much to expect from the staff here to research and supply content for the in house version.

    Think the most annoying thing for staff here is that there is a blanket ban on YouTube imposed by the LEA, but whenever the LEA provide subject specific training to school staff more often than not there is always references to YouTube resources within the training

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    Wonder how this will impact KissYouTube

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    YouTube without comments

    If it's just "YouTube without comments" that's needed, then there's:

    YouTube XL

    Apparently designed for people with media centre PCs, but an absolute gift for teachers wanting to use YouTube on an interactive whiteboard. No comments, no related videos etc

    Not only free, but it's YouTube run, so no problems with some of the copyright problems created by downloads.

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    Looking at this in a simplistic way, Educational related videos could be 'meta tagged' with a field like KS1, KS2, K3 or K12 (US)? And these could be accessed via a different URL / domain (YouTube - Bildung).

    That was the easy part, of course the issue of staff / expense to 'tag' the videos appropriately after being uploaded prior to being available is another issue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MYK-IT View Post
    Looking at this in a simplistic way, Educational related videos could be 'meta tagged' with a field like KS1, KS2, K3 or K12 (US)? And these could be accessed via a different URL / domain (YouTube - Bildung).

    That was the easy part, of course the issue of staff / expense to 'tag' the videos appropriately after being uploaded prior to being available is another issue!
    Agreed would make things a lot easier if this was done.

    Think the BLOXX solution is doing a similar thing but what they haven't accounted for is the amount of work required by users to tag and categorise each video.

    Seems a cheek to charge so much for a solution that requires a vast amount of work to be put in by the end user to get it to work as it should!

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    The problem with TeacherTube is that it doesn't have anything like the same content as is on YouTube.

    When we can implement per-user filtering for a handful of hundred pounds per year (and struggle to get SLT sign-off on even that!), I wonder where they got the figure of £10k from...



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