Internet Related/Filtering/Firewall Thread, YouTube Coming To Your School Soon in Technical; An interesting article here regarding the use of YouTube in schools Schools to spend thousands to access YouTube
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26th January 2010, 09:51 AM #1
YouTube Coming To Your School Soon
An interesting article here regarding the use of YouTube in schools Schools to spend thousands to access YouTube
Yes YouTube has its academic merits but surely there has to be a cheaper alternative, considering this proposed solution is going to costing between £2,500 and £10,000 a year per school
Details of the BLOXX solution can be found more.
Have had a quick read through the brochure and unless I have missed something it does seem to do much automated content filtering, looks like it relies on content being submitted by teachers for approval before it can be viewed.
Interesting to hear what others here think and to see how many schools and authorities are looking at this solution.
We use BLOXX as our web filter have just emailed them to see if our LEA has approached them regarding the unit and to see if I can have one to trial
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26th January 2010, 10:01 AM #2
Wont this just be the same as teachertube which is free. Why pay all that money.
26th January 2010, 10:06 AM #3
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stariq (26th January 2010)
26th January 2010, 10:09 AM #4
We allow Teachers access to youtube but not students.
26th January 2010, 10:11 AM #5
Well surely that's just the same as letting the students have access is it not? hehe!!
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_Bat_ (3rd February 2010)
26th January 2010, 10:12 AM #6
Sounds a bit like a puff, semi advertising, piece.
One thing I was thinking, could CSS sheets be applied at proxy? If it was, surely a sheet could be styled that removed all the cruft & leave just the video. Admittedly the content would still be there in the source but generally the problem would be hidden.
26th January 2010, 10:17 AM #7
Yes and no, yes they have access to it as a managed learning resource (managed by the teacher), but they don't have access to it from their own user accounts for them to abuse and waste learning time on.
Originally Posted by bossman
Yes it is possible to do that. Using a mix of DNS and apache you could redirect all requestes to a site where the CSS is overlaid. One of the torrent sites i used to use did something simalar.
Originally Posted by TechMonkey
26th January 2010, 10:26 AM #8
As the article stated, it does seem a very expensive solution to provide 'safer' access to resources on just one website.
Why doesn't YouTube create an educated orientated sister website? If not free to schools, then for a small fee (has to be cheaper than £2000 to £10000 per annum as mentioned in article).
They could even call it EduTube, EduYouTube or even EducateYouTube
26th January 2010, 10:35 AM #9
Originally Posted by Pottsey
I've told stafff about TT, but as it doesn't have loads of other content for them to play with they don't seem to be interested .
Instead of spending thousands on this sort of solution, why can't staff just set up the clip at full screen then display it on the board? Too much effort?
26th January 2010, 10:46 AM #10
Problem with teachertube is that it's not YouTube, not my words just what I have been told by numerous members of staff here when I have suggested it as an alternative.
Originally Posted by Pottsey
Have also tried to host our own YouTube in house but it never worked think it was too much to expect from the staff here to research and supply content for the in house version.
Think the most annoying thing for staff here is that there is a blanket ban on YouTube imposed by the LEA, but whenever the LEA provide subject specific training to school staff more often than not there is always references to YouTube resources within the training
26th January 2010, 10:46 AM #11
Wonder how this will impact KissYouTube
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Gibbo (3rd February 2010)
26th January 2010, 11:06 AM #12
YouTube without comments
If it's just "YouTube without comments" that's needed, then there's:
Apparently designed for people with media centre PCs, but an absolute gift for teachers wanting to use YouTube on an interactive whiteboard. No comments, no related videos etc
Not only free, but it's YouTube run, so no problems with some of the copyright problems created by downloads.
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26th January 2010, 11:17 AM #13
Looking at this in a simplistic way, Educational related videos could be 'meta tagged' with a field like KS1, KS2, K3 or K12 (US)? And these could be accessed via a different URL / domain (YouTube - Bildung).
That was the easy part, of course the issue of staff / expense to 'tag' the videos appropriately after being uploaded prior to being available is another issue!
26th January 2010, 11:30 AM #14
Agreed would make things a lot easier if this was done.
Originally Posted by MYK-IT
Think the BLOXX solution is doing a similar thing but what they haven't accounted for is the amount of work required by users to tag and categorise each video.
Seems a cheek to charge so much for a solution that requires a vast amount of work to be put in by the end user to get it to work as it should!
26th January 2010, 11:41 AM #15
The problem with TeacherTube is that it doesn't have anything like the same content as is on YouTube.
When we can implement per-user filtering for a handful of hundred pounds per year (and struggle to get SLT sign-off on even that!), I wonder where they got the figure of £10k from...
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