+ Post New Thread
Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 49
Internet Related/Filtering/Firewall Thread, 'Next Generation Securus' in Technical; ...
  1. #16

    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Nottingham
    Posts
    575
    Thank Post
    38
    Thanked 115 Times in 105 Posts
    Rep Power
    47
    When I asked, there is a cost for the VM version, if I remember correctly, £500 (so not much cheaper than the hardware version, even though you'll be providing the tin).

  2. #17

    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    England
    Posts
    1,406
    Thank Post
    307
    Thanked 307 Times in 265 Posts
    Rep Power
    83
    Quote Originally Posted by Willott View Post
    When I asked, there is a cost for the VM version, if I remember correctly, £500 (so not much cheaper than the hardware version, even though you'll be providing the tin).
    Hmmm I'd have to question just what our support contract is giving us if the VM version is going to cost that much! I'd also have to question why we were initially told the upgrade cost was for the new server if the VM version is also going to be a paid for upgrade.

    Time to go have a word with them I think

  3. #18

    plexer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Norfolk
    Posts
    13,691
    Thank Post
    756
    Thanked 1,715 Times in 1,526 Posts
    Rep Power
    438
    I thought the reason it ran on their hardware was so that it was forensically secure and thus the evidenc ecould be used in court proceedings?

    Ben

  4. #19

    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Nottingham
    Posts
    575
    Thank Post
    38
    Thanked 115 Times in 105 Posts
    Rep Power
    47
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfish View Post
    Hmmm I'd have to question just what our support contract is giving us if the VM version is going to cost that much! I'd also have to question why we were initially told the upgrade cost was for the new server if the VM version is also going to be a paid for upgrade.

    Time to go have a word with them I think
    Good luck If you get anywhere, let me know.

  5. #20


    tom_newton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Leeds
    Posts
    4,507
    Thank Post
    871
    Thanked 862 Times in 681 Posts
    Rep Power
    199
    Quote Originally Posted by plexer View Post
    I thought the reason it ran on their hardware was so that it was forensically secure and thus the evidenc ecould be used in court proceedings?

    Ben
    Would still be OK for courts if archived to WORM media.

  6. #21

    Edu-IT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    7,460
    Thank Post
    409
    Thanked 672 Times in 614 Posts
    Rep Power
    192
    I saw the demo at BETT and yes, it is pretty impressive, but £795 for an upgrade? Essentially you'll be left with an old Securus server which is of no use to you once you install the Next Generation box. I'd have thought they would have taken this into account.

    I'm interested to know why it costs so much for the upgrade. The server spec isn't anything special, and given the fact that they're charing £500 for the VM solution, I would assume the bulk of the £800 cost is for the Securus product as opposed to the hardware.

    Impressive feature set but there's part of me which thinks it's a bit of a rip off.

  7. #22

    Edu-IT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    7,460
    Thank Post
    409
    Thanked 672 Times in 614 Posts
    Rep Power
    192
    Okay, I have just seen on a suppliers website that new customers can purchase Securus NG for £795 and the licences are £14. So what exactly is free for existing customers? Anyone?

    Correct me if I'm wrong but the old client can be used on the workstations? So nothing has changed there if that's the case.

  8. #23

    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    13
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Rep Power
    0
    Do all/any of the features on Securus NG actually work? The URL blocking on our Securus install can be defeated by simply creating a shortcut to a URL and then clicking that shortcut repeatedly until securus fails

    Its a 30 second speedbump

    If these things dont work, has the technical support been upgraded to the NEXT GENERATION as well? Current responses to our problems have been along the lines of "lol, really? Thats odd. Bye"

  9. #24

    Edu-IT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    7,460
    Thank Post
    409
    Thanked 672 Times in 614 Posts
    Rep Power
    192
    You could get a test box if they do them?

  10. #25

    glennda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Sussex
    Posts
    7,821
    Thank Post
    272
    Thanked 1,140 Times in 1,036 Posts
    Rep Power
    351
    considering my problem we have spent 3 months looking into not having a clue why it was happening, worked out the problem... securus. we rang them and they knew it was a problem but didn't fancy telling us, so therefore is now currently off, i don't think we will be upgrading soon!!

  11. #26

    Edu-IT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    7,460
    Thank Post
    409
    Thanked 672 Times in 614 Posts
    Rep Power
    192
    Quote Originally Posted by glennda View Post
    considering my problem we have spent 3 months looking into not having a clue why it was happening, worked out the problem... securus. we rang them and they knew it was a problem but didn't fancy telling us, so therefore is now currently off, i don't think we will be upgrading soon!!
    Why what was happening?

    To be fair, I wouldn't use Securus for web filtering anyway. It's good at what it does in terms of getting screen grabs but I don't think they're in the market for proper web filtering. I'd stick to using it just for screenshots.

  12. #27

    glennda's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Sussex
    Posts
    7,821
    Thank Post
    272
    Thanked 1,140 Times in 1,036 Posts
    Rep Power
    351
    Quote Originally Posted by Edu-IT View Post
    Why what was happening?

    To be fair, I wouldn't use Securus for web filtering anyway. It's good at what it does in terms of getting screen grabs but I don't think they're in the market for proper web filtering. I'd stick to using it just for screenshots.

    Some users could not even open my computer or my docs etc, so couldn't save open anything everytime you tried it crashed explorer. we tried everything, it wasnt specific to a file server as we tried four, plus a linux samba share, we tried updating servers plus uninstalling macaffe we spent 3 months on and off thinking we had fixed. it wasnt just happening in one block so not a switching problem (or if it was, it was the main core switch, which we master reset to check). it was even happening when you tried to open the my docs while copied to the C:\ drive!!

    Plus we didn't use it for web filtering, thats done at LEA level we used it for just violation reporting of dodgy things

  13. #28

    Edu-IT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    7,460
    Thank Post
    409
    Thanked 672 Times in 614 Posts
    Rep Power
    192
    Please find attached revised pricing.
    Attached Files Attached Files

  14. Thanks to Edu-IT from:

    dgsmith (5th February 2010)

  15. #29
    billjenkins's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Thorpe, Surrey
    Posts
    16
    Thank Post
    9
    Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
    Rep Power
    10
    Quote Originally Posted by mjs_mjs View Post
    Sounds interesting, but i wonder it it'll run on any old box i can find rather than their £800 pc.
    Yes. You can run the ISO on any computer with a minimum spec of Intel Atom, 2Gb RAM and suggested 320Gb HDD.

  16. #30

    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Nottingham
    Posts
    575
    Thank Post
    38
    Thanked 115 Times in 105 Posts
    Rep Power
    47
    Bill,

    Now that the pricing for the hardware version has been reduced, could you let us know whether the VM version is to be reduced in cost, and if not, why not?

    Regards

    Will



SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Popup generation and sharepoint web parts
    By GrumbleDook in forum Web Development
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 29th August 2011, 08:40 AM
  2. Certificate Generation
    By TechMonkey in forum MIS Systems
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 23rd April 2009, 04:00 PM
  3. I despair for our countries future generation!
    By reggiep in forum General Chat
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 9th March 2009, 12:37 PM
  4. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 2nd January 2006, 06:58 PM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •