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    mb2k01,

    I've found Smoothwall tech support to be very good. As far as I understand it, the Hyper-V issue is, to some extent, beyond their control as it depends in part on Microsoft's willingness to support non-MS OS's as the guest. I'm sure it'll get sorted in time. Hyper-V is still pretty new technology.

    Cheers, Ian.

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    Thanks for the reply Tom.
    I don't want to be too negative as I know Claire is doing everything she can to help and get us going after talking about it for so long, but the whole Hyper-V thing is disappointing. The impression I'm getting so far is that there isn't much interest in developing a solution/product for Hyper-V?

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    It's not a question of our interest - really it's getting mature support from both the linux kernel and microsoft, two things we have limited control over. It's definitely on our radar and we will have full compatibility just as soon as we can.

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    While reading up on the Android code being remove from the main linux kernel I noticed people mentioned Hyper-V too.

    linux kernel monkey log

    Hm, so, what's up with all of the other staging drivers, and why have they not had any development? What is the status of them? They are now on the short list to be deleted in 2 kernel releases, unless some real development happens on them.

    This means, unless someone steps up and starts doing real work (not trivial spelling fixes) on the following drivers, they will be removed in the future kernel releases.

    hv - Microsoft Hyper V drivers. The developers again seem to have disappeared, this is getting old. Slated for removal in 2.6.35

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    Well. I can honestly say I've never had a more depressing, non-achieving, technically cr@p day!
    To any people reading this who may like the idea of doing it, but don't know much/anything about Linux - don't go trying to make SmoothWall work on Hyper-V. Save your sanity!

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    @MB - looks from Dave's post that Microsoft's drivers are about to be binned from the kernel due to lack of interest. Thats a shame. Will see if I can find out more in the next few days.

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    Tom, did you find any more information on this?

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    Rob - it seems Microsoft have had finger out - they've updated their code submission to the linux kernel, and it is certainly supposed to allow up to quad-core processors. We've not tested this though - it only happened end of last month.

    The kernel which has these updates (2.6.32) is too new to even be in our next version of products (for which the kernel is decided long in advance in order to maximise stability) but I will talk to our developers and see if there's any chance of a back-port.

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    That’s fair enough and it sounds like MS should have done this a long time ago.
    I think there is a small but growing user base who would like to be able to use your products in hyper-v so keep us updated with any developments!

    Thanks,
    Rob

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    Hi Tom,

    Trying to keep the hyper-v dream alive, did you manage to get any news from your developers?

    Waiting in anticipation,
    Rob

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    Not yet. I'll jab them. The general assumption is that we will put it in the next major kernel move unless it's really not feasible.

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    Do you have an ETA?
    Last edited by RobFuller; 6th May 2010 at 02:14 PM.

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    Shame you're not using ESXi - we ported across when our "real" server was playing up - and it was a done deal in under half an hour..

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    There are some client tools floating around for specific linux VMs under Hyper-V
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
    and some progress on the SMP front with an RC Windows Virtualization Team Blog : Linux Integration Services v2.1 Release Candidate Now Available

    No idea whether this indicates real progress towards better support for all linux variants though.

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    Thanks for those links. Next big kernel fiddling will be in the next version - Q1 '11. All improvements up to then will be "inline" on the same base OS.



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