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Internet Related/Filtering/Firewall Thread, What sites do you allow staff access but not students? in Technical; Originally Posted by b_m Hi all, My question is, do you allow staff different internet viewing permissions to students- and ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by b_m View Post
    Hi all,

    My question is, do you allow staff different internet viewing permissions to students- and if so what can staff view that students can't? Please could you answer the poll and post details in the thread?
    The school could be limited by an LEA provided service that may not authenticate with network users making filtering based on AD Groups allmost impossible. We had this at last school untill we purchased our own filtering system and were able to drop the filtering level for all and control access to websites on a AD user/group basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davit2005 View Post
    The school could be limited by an LEA provided service that may not authenticate with network users making filtering based on AD Groups allmost impossible. We had this at last school untill we purchased our own filtering system and were able to drop the filtering level for all and control access to websites on a AD user/group basis.
    I refer you to @Dos_Box's earlier post today.

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    We generally have very similar access for staff and students, with a couple of minor exceptions like Youtube for staff only. Students get a few more restrictions based on flash games sites but thats generally because of teachers requests!

    One thing that does bug me is that staff will find a 'new' site by googling it at home the night before, and then find out its blocked for some reason in school (i.e blogging site or similar) and then complain as its the main focus of their lesson - talk about planning ahead!

    We also have an unfiltered system as well - but thats only in use by servers collecting updates etc as it requires no authentication.

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    Hmm. Lost some sympathy for this poster when they both had a go at their NM not being up to date and then chipping in with the comment about being on here during the day. It's what the site is for - it helps keep you current.

    And, not defending this specific NM at all, but you can get de-skilled very quickly in that role if you don't spend a LOT of your OWN time researching and testing things out, and if your SLT don't provide necessary training. Perhaps in addition to being de-skilled they have become disenchanted.

    There are usually two sides to any story.

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    Our filtering gives us over 100 categorys, so we can fine tune needs quite well.

    On the teacher stations where a projector is connected we have the same rules as students with the exception of youtube for the teachers own protection from displaying something risky on a screen. On a teachers laptop we only have Porn, abuse & Malicious websites turned on, so they have a lot more lax filtering so they use them for facebook.

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    Just to more explicitly state what I hinted at earlier today: you lot do realise this is a necro from over three years ago, right?

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    Our filtering is quite open, we block the usual, porn, hate speach, violence and any sites which prove to be a problem but we are generally reactive blocking only if nessisary.

    Consistancy is a big thing as others have said, it also lowers the instance of certain soft headed teachers letting stuents use their accounts for additional access if they disagree with SMT decision with regard to some filtering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    Just to more explicitly state what I hinted at earlier today: you lot do realise this is a necro from over three years ago, right?
    Does that mean that it is a topic which is no longer worthy of discussion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enjay View Post
    Does that mean that it is a topic which is no longer worthy of discussion?
    Oh no, not what I'm trying to imply at all; just that answering OP's question may be a little irrelevant now, particularly as the resurrection began with an answer to that question rather than a "Just to come back to this topic..." - which is something I do all the time anyway.

    It was more the fact that it was the second necro in one day that amused me, like some kind of Forum All Hallows' Eve, where the spirits of restless threads run free again

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    It was more the fact that it was the second necro in one day that amused me, like some kind of Forum All Hallows' Eve, where the spirits of restless threads run free again
    Cool. In that case, can we start discussing RM versus Vanilla please? :-)

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    We're even more liberal when it comes to filtering now. KS3 and 4 have porn/facebook/games blocked. KS5 & staff have only Porn/facebook blocked.

    On users personal devices (On our guest wireless) we only have porn blocked. Facebook & other stuff is allowed. My logic is that if I blocked too heavily on guest wifi, they just wouldn't use it and in the case of phones, switch to 3g instead.

    At least this way, we're logging their access & it may prove useful should any Child protection issues arise. Also, it's their personal devices, I don't care what they do with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enjay View Post
    Cool. In that case, can we start discussing RM versus Vanilla please? :-)
    Oh Vanilla all the way. RM have said CC4 support for Vista is a long way off and I'm interested in being an early adopter for Longhorn.

    To be on topic, just so I'm contributing something better: staff definitely have more access, at the very least YouTube and iPlayer etc. We give our 6th form more access as well (personal webmail etc.) because as far as I'm concerned, time management is part of KS5; if you choose to waste your time that's your choice and a lesson you'll learn.

    Not that I've ever learnt it, mind...

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    time management is part of KS5; if you choose to waste your time that's your choice and a lesson you'll learn
    Ya, my reasoning behind it as well. If they want to waste their time, that's up to them. They should be mature enough to manage it.

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    Staff and pupils have similar access but the staff have the option to unfilter themselves on a per session basis.(logon.staffproxy) They each have their own username and password.

    Staff want to access Grooveshark, youtube, webmail, facebook. I'd feel hypocritical if I didn't facilitate access.

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    Primary pupils - heavily restricted as you would expect
    Year 7 & 8 - non-educational games are permitted, as are blogging sites; all other categories blocked
    Year 9-11 - slightly more relaxed, to allow for research in PSHE, etc
    Year 12 & 13 - Nasties, YouTube and social networks blocked
    Primary Staff - as per Primary pupils, except with YouTube and social networks allowed
    Secondary & Admin Staff - just the Nasties blocked, everything else available

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