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27th March 2013, 08:02 AM #1
We are looking at changing firewall away from Smoothwall. we are currently looking at SonicWall. What are folks using here?
We require VPN, filtering, firewall etc.
27th March 2013, 08:21 AM #2
We have just moved to Smoothwall.
For soincwall the filtering is terrible. Any website that isn't English it just seems to let through. Websites that area clearly proxy sites it just seem to let through. I wouldn't recommend it at all. However we do use the Sonicwall SSL VPN and thats excellent.
Can I ask why you looking at leaving Smoothwall?
Last edited by FN-GM; 27th March 2013 at 08:24 AM.
27th March 2013, 08:26 AM #3
Licence updating of £10k due this year. The box has ignored its self when told to tidy its self up after XX% full, support said dont worry, it got 100% full and fell over. TBH we dont have a support contract but i was looking at getting on then the £10k bill came in. its gonna cost us more to move but future costs arnt so bad
Originally Posted by FN-GM
27th March 2013, 08:29 AM #4
We just got 5 years and it cost us nothing like that. How many users?
For filtering Websense is very good. Used to use that for many years.
27th March 2013, 08:30 AM #5
Originally Posted by FN-GM
600 users seems bonkers too me too
27th March 2013, 08:35 AM #6
- Rep Power
We are also looking to move away from Smoothwall for the very same reason. Our bill is getting on £10K for 650 users with a support contract. We have been looking at a Sophos solution . The price seems to be cheaper for the time period and it looks like a better solution. Have never really got our Smoothwall appliance to work for us. Its OK but it not the best solution i have ever used but its not the worst neither.
27th March 2013, 08:47 AM #7
Maybe @tom_newton can comment?
Last edited by FN-GM; 27th March 2013 at 08:48 AM.
27th March 2013, 03:29 PM #8
Yes - drop me a line, let me know your details and I am sure we will get something worked out. I don't know why support told you to let your disk get full, that's certainly not the standard line. We are improving the housekeeping disk stuff right now (next-but-one release) . With regard to pricing, maybe there is some miscommunication somewhere, I will certainly be happy to go and rootle it out if there is!
27th March 2013, 03:29 PM #9
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I am currently trialling a Sonicwall. Nearly at the end. Will not be buying.
It's buggy. The web content filtering leaves a bit to be desired.
Regarding the application filtering, I carefully applied rules to block all sorts of nasties, including Ultrasurf. I tested Ultrasurf, and it was allowed right through. I Googled this issue and was led to How to Block Ultrasurf using a SonicWALL Firewall - YouTube This is unrelated to the specific block Ultrasurf rule which I had already implemented. I'm a bit annoyed by this.
Last edited by SJA; 27th March 2013 at 03:32 PM.
27th March 2013, 04:42 PM #10
- Rep Power
Have to say, apart from my current problem with safe search, the FortiGate units we have here are amazing...
27th March 2013, 05:06 PM #11
I've got a quote here for renewal of 1000 users and it's less than £3K
Originally Posted by One_Minute_Hero
27th March 2013, 06:34 PM #12
+1 for Fortigate or Lightspeed here.
Let me know if you need a quote.
27th March 2013, 07:41 PM #13
Lightspeed filter and sonicwall for firewall (not filtering, it's not upto the job for education from our testing. The bandwidth management should be really useful though).
We have this solution installed Tuesday / Wednesday next week replacing our Smoothwall filter / firewall.
Last edited by RTFM; 27th March 2013 at 07:44 PM.
25th April 2013, 12:48 PM #14
I know it's a bit late but we're using the Sonicwall NSA4500 set up in High Availability. Gotta agree that the inbuilt filtering isn’t too great when CFS is used, however the Bandwidth Management to reduce bandwidth to certain domains is really handy. App Rules do allow a much more granular level of control but I’ve put a request in for Websense alongside the Sonicwall as this is much better for filtering.
The SSL VPN setup is nice and easy as you just send the certificate out to the client and all they need to do is open it with the client application. One thing I do love on these though is the Sonicpoint Wireless. We moved from Procurve AP’s to the Sonicwall Wireless solution when we installed these and it’s so easy to setup it’s untrue. Took half a day to install 16 AP’s across site and configure them using the centralised policies, one change on the NSA and all AP’s update automatically.
Was unsure at 1st and we went down the Sonicwall route more for cost efficiency but I’m more than happy with it
25th April 2013, 06:57 PM #15
Used Watchguard in the past, solid stuff.
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