I've seen the Paxton Net2 and wasn't sure if that's what we wanted.
Originally Posted by tech_guy
Brillant! I'll add them to my contact list. Already spoken with smart-lock.co.uk, and fired an e-mail off to a company in Ipswitch (can't find their name now!).
@Millgate, Do just supply the cards/readers/printers or do you supply the door locks as well? If the later can you arrange fitting?
We use AMI easytrace to produce cards for students.
It has a script that updates Paxton NET2 with users and puts them into groups but it's partly broken as the security levels don't automaticaly apply.
Altman pcounter allows users to login with their network account and then assign their card to them.
Oliver updates directly from Easytrrace.
Traka lockers get user/card automatical and sort of work but there is no granularity of access.
Catering is direct from easytrace.
Our experince is that if you want a system to work seamlessley and properly then you have to define it in cast IRON before you sign up a contract. Our system is cludged to sort of work as the main contractor over sold the solutions.
We use Salto. It's great a can achieve everything you are looking for. We pay about £220 for a lock that uses 3xaaa.
Be careful that you use Salto mifare cards. They work on all systems but only those cards work on the doors
We use Mifare cards for the following
Access Control (doors)
Printing / Photocopying / Scanning
LMK if you want any more details
I can't see us using this with pupils. I did discuss cashless catering with our Business Manager but he didn't exactly warm to the idea. Likewise neither the library or lesson monitoring are likely candidates here for a high tech solution.
This is purely a staff thing. Charge back photocopies to departments and prevent pupils getting into ICT suites unsupervised.
On a side note @deano, Salto is one of the solutions I've already looked at. I think that's the one that Ipswich company I can't remember the name of supplies!
We just do the cards etc chap im afraid :(
Originally Posted by tmcd35
You can find many distributors that do the SALTO locks. The company itself is based in Spain and use distributors. I use one in Birmingham that give me very competitive prices. PM me if you want details
We have just fitted Paxton Net 2 with mifare cards, works well, tech support is excellent and all UK built kit with 5 years warranty, well worth it.
Not true for all systems actually.
Originally Posted by crt404
@tmcd35 SALTO here supplied and installed by AC Leigh if you want to come and have a look and go over the system you're more than welcome.
Same card for Doors, Cashless catering and Photocopiers & follow me printing.
Thanks Ben, Interesting to note, I've got AC Leigh visiting on Tuesday. Turns out they are the retail arm of that Ipswich based company I couldn't remember the name of!
Slightly put off of SALTO as they need specially formatted cards - supplier lock in. We'll see what AC Leigh have to say and how their quote compares with the other one I received today.
I think you will find that the MiFare cards from SALTO are slightly more expensive that some on the market but they are of a better quality and are sure to work with all MiFare products. In essence, you get waht you pay for.
I dunno about better quality they are normal mifare cards with certain sectors programmed with encrypted information.
With regards to vendor lockin you're going to be tied to vendor supplied hardware anyway.
I compared Salto to Paxton when we got quotes the other year and for normal single doors Salto are much cheaper as it doesn't need mains or network cabling.
Doors that need to be online and mag locked were slightly more expensive but not enough to make the overall solution dearer.
Retro fitting a Salto lock to a door that has a suitable lock case means drilling 2 holes and takes 30 mins max.
Worth looking at the Paxton net lock devices, sound very similar to the salto system, they have only been available for the last year or so. Quick to fit and cheap, but are battery powered and not suitable for external doors. Our cards are bog standard mifare, whatever we can get cheap at the time.