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    Re: List of bad software

    Obviously primary education has advanced far beyond what I experianced at that age. Our curriculum was rather more adhoc and mainly consisted of "open book to page XX and do the questions" after they had finished teaching us how to answer those questions. Do they now have to plan playing in the sand pit down to the last grain?

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    Re: List of bad software

    Well, software which is bad... One big can of worms there.

    For hand holding, it has to be MS Office. No-one knows how to use it properly - with most staff knowing only how to do simple wordprocessing.

    For installing? This is a difficult one for me - we haven't bought any difficult to install software in the last couple of years. All the old stuff is just that, old. So making a comment about it would be inappropriate. However, the Shockwave player/plugin is a pain to install, as is the KS3 ICT test software.

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    Re: List of bad software

    Quote Originally Posted by Midget
    Do they now have to plan playing in the sand pit down to the last grain?
    Yes... and more! Having been at a Primary that was in special measures for 2 years, the forms had to be seen to be believed!

    ICT is an integral part of Primary School life now. Interactive whiteboards are the norm. Planning forms and pupil reports are routinely being completed on computers.

    Then there's all the statistics required by the government...

    and I nearly forgot the risk analysis forms!

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    bloody hell, they've ruined primary education. I don't think there should be such an emphasis on computers at primary level. A handful of computers for the head and staff to put details on and print worksheets and thats about it and concentrate on actually putting down a foundation for their learning. Have they started teaching citizenship and how not to treat a person from another race?


    and i'm going to stop there before I start sounding like the Daily Mail.

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    Re: List of bad software

    Why should they not put emphasis on ICT at primary level? Almost all future career paths contain ICT, so why shouldn't be involved as a key skill like english and maths?

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    teach about computers at comp, primary should just be to give the kids a good foundation in reading and writing and maths, something that alot of kids miss these days.

    How does teaching a <10yo kid how to write a letter in MSWord help their developement?

    anyway, this is a different topic.

    back on track.... has anyone mentioned Nelson Thornes yet?

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    Re: List of bad software

    Ones I've had trouble with:

    Picasso - mind mapping software type thing, seems to install OK but has a lot of quirks with saving data (or not!) and in certain areas of the program you MUST print out every page even if you only want to see the page you're currently on.

    Business@Work - I discovered we were using two slightly different versions in the school and if a pupil tried to open his document in another room it simply wouldn't work and crash the PC. No fix from the suppliers and the only way to tell what version your running is to check a log install file in the program directory. Easy to update, but why not build in backwards compatibility for even a tiny update!

    Smartboard software - I know it works great but there's far too many versions of it and of course staff insist on having the most up to date version at all times. Very time consuming.

    Seemis - registration program we must use, randomly stops working and you have to delete the contents of the folder and force it to update all files. Rubbishly written and very, very poor interface.

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    Re: List of bad software

    @midget - you know as well as everyone else that there is a lot more to learning ICT than writing letters in word. Computers are ubiquitous to life now, so should be ubiquitous in education also.

    Also, what's a comp? Do you mean comprehensive? We don't have them down here... :P

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    Re: List of bad software

    I installed PCs for the local toddler group as it was a requirement by the inspector.

    At that age the kids are familiarising themselves with mice etc.. I put Artrage on there that the kids love, and the teachers work through basic story type programs.

    As kids move into reception and year one, they don't then need to be taught the basics, they can get straight into using software.

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    Re: List of bad software

    @localzuk

    Funny you should mention about comprehensives. I was lucky enough to tour round some schools along the south coast (well, from Bristol to Devon and then along the coast) and one of the schools we stopped off at has 4 specialisms ... ok, 3 official ones but another unofficial (but they were in the process of getting it recognised!).

    They only needed one more to be a comprehensive ;-)

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    Re: List of bad software

    Microsoft Windows.

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    Re: List of bad software

    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyKGB
    Microsoft Windows.
    install linux or bsd and throw a teacher at it and then you'll see which is better.

    actually in no case is windows worse than linux/bsd
    its easy to install via network, the teachers can use it, it's pretty easy to administrate

    compare that to linux.

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    Re: List of bad software

    No OS wars ... we are talking about software that is used in educational environments ... do not start changing this into an OS war.

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    Re: List of bad software

    GD> that's why i replied as such, i use linux, but in an educational environment windows is much better.

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    Re: List of bad software

    Pardon? I use Linux at work. I can talk to the Windows machines just fine over RDP/ICA/CIFS. I can talk to the Linux servers just fine over SCP/SSH. And for bonus points, I get a PC that doesn't crash (nForce chipset...grumble...grumble..).

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