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24th November 2011, 03:49 PM #1 Details of Former Pupils
Is anyone up on the current Data Protection Act guidelines/requirements regarding how long we can keep data on pupils, and at what point we should destroy it? A conversation about contacting former pupils and inviting them a reunion has sparked some concern here...
I've seen How long should school records be retained? : North Yorkshire County Council, but am not sure the source of that, i.e. whether it is legal or just their recommendation.
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24th November 2011, 04:17 PM #2
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Its the Freedom of Information act that applies here and your school should have a schedule of publication which lists how long each kind of data is retained for.
It could be until the students are twenty one, but in the case of students with a statement, it may be much longer (might even be for their lifetime!)
Phil
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24th November 2011, 04:23 PM #3 
Originally Posted by
philwaud
Its the Freedom of Information act that applies here and your school should have a schedule of publication which lists how long each kind of data is retained for.
It could be until the students are twenty one, but in the case of students with a statement, it may be much longer (might even be for their lifetime!)
Phil
nope. It's the DP Act that applies here re personal data not the FoI Act.
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24th November 2011, 04:25 PM #4 The problem here is the reason the communication is being sent. The school could be on rocky ground using contact details for this, unless the ex-students opted into a mailing list for this type of communication.
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24th November 2011, 05:03 PM #5 a good holding page re the DP Act in schools (with a document on retention dates) can be found at
http://www.usethekey.org.uk/administ...ents-and-staff
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Thanks to jdoyle from:
enjay (25th November 2011)
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24th November 2011, 07:00 PM #6
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OK, I think we are both right!
DPA says the data shouldn't be kept longer than necessary but the FOI says it must be kept for a period when a request may reasonably be made. As I said, this is until 21 (when a majority od students could reasonably be expected to finish their education), or life in the case of certain statemented pupils.
Im referring to data in the form of school records rather than data in the students user area.
Phil
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25th November 2011, 09:05 AM #7 FOI doesn't apply to independent schools though, right?
Age 21 was what our Bursar said too, something about statutes of limitation on liability claims, however there was some uncertainty over how much we had to destroy at age 21 and how much we could keep - like many older schools, we have pupil lists going back in to the mists of time, and are asked for information from these with surprising frequency by people who are trying to trace family members.
Pupils do opt-in/out when they leave, however it is anyone's guess what was said to people in 2000 (the current year of interest).
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25th November 2011, 09:16 AM #8 
Originally Posted by
jdoyle
Can't get that page to work - do I need to be a member before I can expand those pages in the contents section, or is my browser having a moment?
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25th November 2011, 09:18 AM #9 it was open to view until last night when they did some site maintenance. I should have downloaded the document they'd produced ;-(
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25th November 2011, 09:23 AM #10 From what it says in the header, I think it is just a wrap-up of ICO regulations, so I'll see if I can find it on there before paying to access this site.
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25th November 2011, 09:38 AM #11 I've just looked at the ICO's website, and they don't go into any of the detail which that North Yorks site does, so I think that must just be their own policy. The ICO basically seems to be saying to keep it for as long we deem necessary and no longer.
Before we get much further down this road, does anyone know how easy it is to selectively prune SIMS, so we could remove attendance data but keep other data?
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25th November 2011, 10:19 AM #12 There are actually a collection of different laws that relate to this, not just DP and FOI (and enjay is right that FOI does not generally apply to independent schools).
The Records Management Society has a 'Toolkit for schools' with a LOT of information on this here:
Toolkit for Schools - May 2008 | Information and Records Management Society
It may be slightly out of date now as it was last revised in 2008, but the Retention Guidelines document in particular is very thorough and makes an excellent starting point.
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Thanks to AngryTechnician from:
enjay (25th November 2011)
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25th November 2011, 10:40 AM #13 Thanks AngryTechnician. According to that, we should be destroying everything when the pupil is 25 - if that is the case, then there are lots of schools out there who are in breach of that, as the more historic/prestigious ones keep pupil records for decades if not centuries...
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25th November 2011, 10:57 AM #14 I'm into the site again and the resourse re retention is from the IRMS
http://www.irms.org.uk/download/789
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Thanks to jdoyle from:
enjay (25th November 2011)
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25th November 2011, 11:02 AM #15 Thanks jdoyle, AngryTechnician beat you to it though.
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