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    Vanilla Network Package Creation

    How do you all (Vanilla Networks) handle package creation? I don't mean the GPO's etc, and I mean actually creating the package (MSI)?

    From an RM background the done thing for me was to always create an MSI with Winstall LE, but most installation media nowadays has an MSI ready on the disc. Do you tend to use these MSI's, or do you create your own package using some 3rd party software?

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    We normally use any tools provided to create a customised install or just use the MSI on the disc, which installs using all default settings I believe.

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    Ghost Auto Installer (AI) works great but has a size limit of 2gb i think it is

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    I've used win Installer LE and also done a few packages through fog but only really because i was playing!

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    We use EMCO - it's a great program but we want something a little more Robust and easier to use.

    I'd quite like to get to know Symantec (Ghost) AI, never used it before but we have the full symantec ghost suite here and it's part of that.

    Anybody able to tell me how it kinda works ?

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    Its very easy, you run the snapshot, install and config the software, finish the snapshot and it builds the package

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    If there's a MSI already shipped with the CD, I always run command prompt and type in: msiexec /a D:\filename.msi which enables me to create an administrative install of the MSI, so that I can input things like the serial key and username etc.

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    So only 1 for using the install media MSI's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
    So only 1 for using the install media MSI's?
    I use them if they are available but only if they don't require serial numbers etc if they don't then i'll test deploy them on a vm and if all working then deploy to network.

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    Should the majority of packages I've created (Winstall LE) for my RM network work on my Vanilla network, or is this bad practice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
    Should the majority of packages I've created (Winstall LE) for my RM network work on my Vanilla network, or is this bad practice?
    I'm not 100% sure how RM systems work and how much adaptations it uses for the packages.

    But there is no harm in building a test vanilla workstation in a seperate OU and apply the install GPO to only that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
    Should the majority of packages I've created (Winstall LE) for my RM network work on my Vanilla network, or is this bad practice?
    In my experience they tend to work fine as long as they aren't looking for any RM specific unc paths (rmshared, rmpublic etc) as the RM Application Wizard is just a wrapper for WinstallLE with some exclusions etc. (Well, in CC3 anyway..... CC4 who knows)

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    I almost always use pre-built MSIs if they are available (often with MSTs to customise shortcuts and the like), unless I look at them in Orca and see that they've been created with a capture program.

    I hate capture programs.

    In my experience, they almost always pick up extraneous changes that are nothing to do with the program being installed, and most people using them don't have the knowledge required to work out what they can and can't drop (present company possibly excepted!). Some of the worst workstation problems I've ever dealt with have been down to badly captured MSIs screwing around with registry changes or system files that have nothing to do with them

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    Like AT I pretty much always use supplied MSIs and create MSTs if they are needed.
    The need to repackage an MSI is pretty rare in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryTechnician View Post
    I almost always use pre-built MSIs if they are available (often with MSTs to customise shortcuts and the like), unless I look at them in Orca and see that they've been created with a capture program.

    I hate capture programs.

    In my experience, they almost always pick up extraneous changes that are nothing to do with the program being installed, and most people using them don't have the knowledge required to work out what they can and can't drop (present company possibly excepted!). Some of the worst workstation problems I've ever dealt with have been down to badly captured MSIs screwing around with registry changes or system files that have nothing to do with them
    Completely agree.

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